From lauren at gagfoot.com Mon Mar 3 02:19:53 2008 From: lauren at gagfoot.com (lauren) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:19:53 -0800 Subject: [Thunar-dev] initial question... Message-ID: <47CB5239.1080906@gagfoot.com> and forgive me if this is a silly thing... i want to make a patch / plugin / whatever that shows a more advanced tooltip to show item previews if enabled similar to konqueror in kde ... is this already there somewhere? or is there a reason why this won't be possible? thanks and i'm looking forward to doing some coding lauren :) From mmassonnet at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 14:43:35 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:43:35 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] initial question... In-Reply-To: <47CB5239.1080906@gagfoot.com> References: <47CB5239.1080906@gagfoot.com> Message-ID: <20080303134335.GF11903@failure.del> On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 05:19:53PM -0800, lauren wrote: Hi lauren, > and forgive me if this is a silly thing... > > i want to make a patch / plugin / whatever that shows a more advanced > tooltip to show item previews if enabled similar to konqueror in kde ... > is this already there somewhere? or is there a reason why this won't be > possible? I think, the main reason is because it isn't doable with GtkTooltips from GTK+<2.12. 2.12 has a new tooltips api that lets you add your widgets inside a tooltip (GtkImage for example). OOTH Xfce 4.4 depends on GTK+2.6, and Xfce 4.6 will depend on GTK+2.10. This is not a stopper, but will need #ifdefs in the code to check for the right GTK+ version. I also think, that there is no plugable way, the tooltip is IMHO hard-coded, but grep and read the right files to find out. > thanks and i'm looking forward to doing some coding > > lauren > :) My 2 cents, mike From vanenkj at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 06:00:18 2008 From: vanenkj at gmail.com (John Van Enk) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:00:18 -0500 Subject: [Thunar-dev] First Time Message-ID: All, I'm sure I'm doing this wrong, but I was unable to find an etiquette guide anywhere. Please don't hesitate to correct me. I am interested in helping with Thunar development and pulled the SVN repo down tonight. Honestly, I'm pretty new to this stuff, so I'm probably building this wrong as well. I was unable to build after the following steps: ./autogen.sh ./configure --enable-debug make I end up with this error: make[3]: Entering directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk/thunarx' make[3]: *** No rule to make target `thunarx-config.c', needed by `libthunarx_1_la-thunarx-config.lo'. Stop. make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk/thunarx' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk/thunarx' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk' make: *** [all] Error 2 I noticed that this file and the matching .h file used to be generated by the Makefile in trunk/thunarx around line 954, but it seems to have been commented out. Is this something known, or something that was overlooked b/c the file existed on most developers' systems and would only show up on a fresh SVN check out? Again, feel free to correct me, I'd love to help. -- /jve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/attachments/20080305/0e824c17/attachment.html From mmassonnet at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 06:22:48 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:22:48 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] First Time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080305052248.GU11903@failure.del> On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:00:18AM -0500, John Van Enk wrote: > All, > > I'm sure I'm doing this wrong, but I was unable to find an etiquette guide > anywhere. Please don't hesitate to correct me. > > I am interested in helping with Thunar development and pulled the SVN repo > down tonight. Honestly, I'm pretty new to this stuff, so I'm probably > building this wrong as well. I was unable to build after the following > steps: > > ./autogen.sh > ./configure --enable-debug ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode --enable-debug That's what autogen.sh appends automatically. vim autogen.sh to get an idea. > make > > I end up with this error: > > make[3]: Entering directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk/thunarx' > make[3]: *** No rule to make target `thunarx-config.c', needed by > `libthunarx_1_la-thunarx-config.lo'. Stop. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk/thunarx' > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk/thunarx' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/switch/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > I noticed that this file and the matching .h file used to be generated by > the Makefile in trunk/thunarx around line 954, but it seems to have been > commented out. > > Is this something known, or something that was overlooked b/c the file > existed on most developers' systems and would only show up on a fresh SVN > check out? > > Again, feel free to correct me, I'd love to help. HTH, mike From h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de Sun Mar 9 12:19:27 2008 From: h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de (Harald Schmalzbauer) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:19:27 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount Message-ID: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> Hello, I like xfce very much but unfortunately I can't use Thunar at the moment. The reason is described in http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3076 Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount. This bug is almost one year old. Any chance to get that fixed? I'm bloody C beginner, so I can't help out... Thanks, -Harry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/attachments/20080309/c5f5c184/signature.bin From chris at shenton.org Tue Mar 11 16:57:53 2008 From: chris at shenton.org (Chris Shenton) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:57:53 -0400 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> (Harald Schmalzbauer's message of "Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:19:27 +0100") References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> Message-ID: <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> Harald Schmalzbauer writes: > I like xfce very much but unfortunately I can't use Thunar at the > moment. The reason is described in > http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3076 > Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount. > This bug is almost one year old. > Any chance to get that fixed? I'm bloody C beginner, so I can't help out... This has been bothering me since I switched to XFCE a year back for my main system; but it's been fine on other systems I've installed it on (office, dev boxes). It never occurred to me that it was due to my NFS /home dir. Thanks! (My main box where this bites me is FreeBSD-6-STABLE on i386.) Add me to the "me too" list for this one. From h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de Tue Mar 11 19:26:54 2008 From: h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de (Harald Schmalzbauer) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:26:54 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> Message-ID: <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> Chris Shenton wrote: > Harald Schmalzbauer writes: > >> I like xfce very much but unfortunately I can't use Thunar at the >> moment. The reason is described in >> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3076 >> Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount. >> This bug is almost one year old. >> Any chance to get that fixed? I'm bloody C beginner, so I can't help out... > > This has been bothering me since I switched to XFCE a year back for my > main system; but it's been fine on other systems I've installed it on > (office, dev boxes). It never occurred to me that it was due to my NFS > /home dir. Thanks! Actually it's a problem with the thumbnail/.cache/NFS interaction. I'm fine with symlinking ~/.cache (the NFS home) to /usr/local/home/user/.cache/ (a machine-dependend local home, also for .config and .gconf in my case), for example. Best regards, -Harry From stephan at xfce.org Tue Mar 11 19:54:12 2008 From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:54:12 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> Message-ID: <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Chris Shenton wrote: > > Harald Schmalzbauer writes: > > > >> I like xfce very much but unfortunately I can't use Thunar at the > >> moment. The reason is described in > >> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3076 > >> Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount. > >> This bug is almost one year old. > >> Any chance to get that fixed? I'm bloody C beginner, so I can't help out... > > > > This has been bothering me since I switched to XFCE a year back for my > > main system; but it's been fine on other systems I've installed it on > > (office, dev boxes). It never occurred to me that it was due to my NFS > > /home dir. Thanks! > > Actually it's a problem with the thumbnail/.cache/NFS interaction. > I'm fine with symlinking ~/.cache (the NFS home) to > /usr/local/home/user/.cache/ (a machine-dependend local home, also for > .config and .gconf in my case), for example. This sounds logical, thunar creates (and loads) thumbnails for every file it can. This results in some very massive network traffic when viewing a folder. You could argue that reading and writing thumbnails should be less intrusive, but I wouldn't really know how. @Benny, do you have an idea if this is possible? > > Best regards, > > -Harry Regards, - Stephan From ben at kalifornia.com Tue Mar 11 20:01:00 2008 From: ben at kalifornia.com (Ben Ford) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:01:00 -0700 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D6D6EC.1050800@kalifornia.com> Stephan Arts wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Harald Schmalzbauer > wrote: > >> Chris Shenton wrote: >> ... >> Actually it's a problem with the thumbnail/.cache/NFS interaction. >> I'm fine with symlinking ~/.cache (the NFS home) to >> /usr/local/home/user/.cache/ (a machine-dependend local home, also for >> .config and .gconf in my case), for example. >> > > This sounds logical, thunar creates (and loads) thumbnails for every > file it can. This results in some very massive network traffic when > viewing a folder. > > You could argue that reading and writing thumbnails should be less > intrusive, but I wouldn't really know how. > > @Benny, do you have an idea if this is possible? > Why not cache remote filesystems to /tmp/thunar/...? -b From h.aling at home.nl Tue Mar 11 19:39:56 2008 From: h.aling at home.nl (Harold Aling) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:39:56 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> Message-ID: <20080311193956.32de3c4e@desktop> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:26:54 +0100 Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Chris Shenton wrote: > > Harald Schmalzbauer writes: > > > >> I like xfce very much but unfortunately I can't use Thunar at the > >> moment. The reason is described in > >> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3076 > >> Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount. > >> This bug is almost one year old. > >> Any chance to get that fixed? I'm bloody C beginner, so I can't > >> help out... > > > > This has been bothering me since I switched to XFCE a year back for > > my main system; but it's been fine on other systems I've installed > > it on (office, dev boxes). It never occurred to me that it was due > > to my NFS /home dir. Thanks! > > Actually it's a problem with the thumbnail/.cache/NFS interaction. > I'm fine with symlinking ~/.cache (the NFS home) to > /usr/local/home/user/.cache/ (a machine-dependend local home, also > for .config and .gconf in my case), for example. Has anybody tried to access a folder mounted with obexfs in Thunar? I don't know if it's the same 'bug' as described above, but Thunar hangs completely when browsing obexfs mounted folders... (did not try curlftpfs yet, or any others...) -H- From bjt23 at cornell.edu Tue Mar 11 20:10:49 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:10:49 -0700 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <47D6D6EC.1050800@kalifornia.com> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> <47D6D6EC.1050800@kalifornia.com> Message-ID: <47D6D939.3090304@cornell.edu> Ben Ford wrote: > Why not cache remote filesystems to /tmp/thunar/...? Because portably figuring out that a filesystem is remote is hard. The sysadmin (or user) can set the XDG_CACHE_HOME env var to point to something local for all users if he so desires. -brian From h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de Tue Mar 11 20:37:48 2008 From: h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de (Harald Schmalzbauer) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:37:48 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <47D6D939.3090304@cornell.edu> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> <47D6D6EC.1050800@kalifornia.com> <47D6D939.3090304@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <47D6DF8C.2030301@omnisec.de> Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > Ben Ford wrote: > >> Why not cache remote filesystems to /tmp/thunar/...? > > Because portably figuring out that a filesystem is remote is hard. The > sysadmin (or user) can set the XDG_CACHE_HOME env var to point to _really_ appreciated hint! Thanks a lot. I loved the KDEHOME env and I'm missing something similar for GTK/XFCE/GNOME. So many machine dependent configurations are in users home... I'd love to have my user configuration seperated from the machine configuration (I use the same .gnupg keyring on my multihead "workstation" like on my 10" subnotebook, but you can imagine GUI settings are quite different for these machines?) KDEHOME env made it possible. I'm happy with strictly following standards and I'm happy that XFCE follows the FreeDesktop standards (which I'm not familar with), but at some point one has to extend standards... Perhaps there's already a draft about machine vs. user configuration out there, due to lack of time I've never seriously searched, just made up a dull mind... Best regards, -Harry From h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de Tue Mar 11 20:45:01 2008 From: h.schmalzbauer at omnisec.de (Harald Schmalzbauer) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <47D6D6EC.1050800@kalifornia.com> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> <47D6D6EC.1050800@kalifornia.com> Message-ID: <47D6E13D.8060202@omnisec.de> Ben Ford wrote: > Stephan Arts wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Harald Schmalzbauer >> wrote: >> >>> Chris Shenton wrote: >>> > ... >>> Actually it's a problem with the thumbnail/.cache/NFS interaction. >>> I'm fine with symlinking ~/.cache (the NFS home) to >>> /usr/local/home/user/.cache/ (a machine-dependend local home, also for >>> .config and .gconf in my case), for example. >>> >> This sounds logical, thunar creates (and loads) thumbnails for every >> file it can. This results in some very massive network traffic when >> viewing a folder. >> >> You could argue that reading and writing thumbnails should be less >> intrusive, but I wouldn't really know how. >> >> @Benny, do you have an idea if this is possible? >> > > Why not cache remote filesystems to /tmp/thunar/...? The other way round was needed. If the "destination" is remote, cache should be stored locally. It's no problem to index/analyse remote files, but it's a problem to store the result also remotely. Btw, you do already have the possibility to decide if remote files are thumbnailed. It's configurable via standard UI in Thunar. Best regards, -Harry From ori at eigenstate.org Tue Mar 11 21:16:02 2008 From: ori at eigenstate.org (Ori Bernstein) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:16:02 -0400 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <20080311193956.32de3c4e@desktop> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> <20080311193956.32de3c4e@desktop> Message-ID: <20080311161602.24b4ec60.ori@eigenstate.org> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:39:56 +0100, Harold Aling said: > > Has anybody tried to access a folder mounted with obexfs in Thunar? I > don't know if it's the same 'bug' as described above, but Thunar hangs > completely when browsing obexfs mounted folders... (did not try > curlftpfs yet, or any others...) Have you tried stracing Thunar to see where it goes wrong? From zelenp at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 21:32:09 2008 From: zelenp at gmail.com (Petr Zelenka) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:32:09 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] Thunar hangs when the users home is on NFS mount In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> References: <47D3C7BF.1010306@omnisec.de> <86ejah9rsu.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> <47D6CEEE.7060104@omnisec.de> <74b8614e0803111154s5d49644p313f9537730b61b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <81f139170803111332l797d682fk6bfe653e5689fdd6@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Stephan Arts wrote: > > This sounds logical, thunar creates (and loads) thumbnails for every > file it can. This results in some very massive network traffic when > viewing a folder. > > You could argue that reading and writing thumbnails should be less > intrusive, but I wouldn't really know how. > > @Benny, do you have an idea if this is possible? > Hi, I am not familiar with Xfce/Thunar code at all, but wouldn't a separate thread for reading/writing thumbnails solve that? Just a guess ... Cheers, Petr From greg.sieranski at quoininc.com Fri Mar 21 19:10:49 2008 From: greg.sieranski at quoininc.com (Sieranski, Greg) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:10:49 -0400 Subject: [Thunar-dev] required package thunar-vfs-1 was not found Message-ID: <47E3FA29.8080805@quoininc.com> I am trying to build and install Ristretto. When I do my ./configure I recieve the following error: checking for thunar-vfs-1 >= 0.4.0... not found *** The required package thunar-vfs-1 was not found on your system. *** Please install thunar-vfs-1 (atleast version 0.4.0) or adjust *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that *** pkg-config is able to find it. I am assuming I need a packacge thunar-vfs-1-devel or something along those lines but I am unable to find one. I am running 64bit Fedora 8. Does anyone know where I can find the package or what I need to do to get by this error? thanks, Greg Sieranski From mmassonnet at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 20:48:01 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:48:01 +0100 Subject: [Thunar-dev] required package thunar-vfs-1 was not found In-Reply-To: <47E3FA29.8080805@quoininc.com> References: <47E3FA29.8080805@quoininc.com> Message-ID: <20080321194801.GB17541@failure.del> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 02:10:49PM -0400, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > I am trying to build and install Ristretto. When I do my ./configure I > recieve the following error: > checking for thunar-vfs-1 >= 0.4.0... not found > *** The required package thunar-vfs-1 was not found on your system. > *** Please install thunar-vfs-1 (atleast version 0.4.0) or adjust > *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you > *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that > *** pkg-config is able to find it. > > I am assuming I need a packacge thunar-vfs-1-devel or something along > those lines but I am unable to find one. I am running 64bit Fedora 8. > Does anyone know where I can find the package or what I need to do to > get by this error? That's an issue with your distro and their packages. Better get in touch with Fedora folk and ask them how to install build dependencies for a package or to build foobar. You were already told to install a package called like thunar-dev. > thanks, > Greg Sieranski mike