From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Wed Jul 2 08:40:42 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3543] xfrun4: labels with UTF8 characters are missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080702064042.3EB5BF29E1@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3543 ------- Comment #2 from micky_hatya at ybb.ne.jp 2008-07-02 06:40 UTC ------- Created an attachment (id=1721) --> (http://bugzilla.xfce.org/attachment.cgi?id=1721&action=view) xfrun-dialog-bug3543.patch I corrected it with this patch. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Wed Jul 2 09:01:26 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3543] xfrun4: labels with UTF8 characters are missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080702070126.D19A6F29E1@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3543 bjt23 at cornell.edu changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED ------- Comment #3 from bjt23 at cornell.edu 2008-07-02 07:01 UTC ------- Committed, thanks, though this is already fixed in trunk, and there probably won't be any new 4.4.x releases. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Thu Jul 3 19:52:07 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3806] xfce4-about dialog shows and resizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703175207.AB9D3F29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 ------- Comment #7 from michael.s.gilbert at gmail.com 2008-07-03 17:52 UTC ------- > It's far from simple. i think it is fairly simple...i think people can live with side scrolling to view all the text (if the font size is large), but the show and resize needs to be eliminated, and that can be done by specifying a horizontal pixel width. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Thu Jul 3 20:06:57 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3806] xfce4-about dialog shows and resizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703180657.8673AF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 ------- Comment #8 from bjt23 at cornell.edu 2008-07-03 18:06 UTC ------- (In reply to comment #7) > > It's far from simple. > > i think it is fairly simple... Well, you're wrong. > i think people can live with side scrolling to > view all the text (if the font size is large), Sure, I'd agree with that. > but the show and resize needs to be eliminated, and that can be done by > specifying a horizontal pixel width. And what horizontal pixel width that makes sense on everyone's display at everyone's resolution at everyone's font size would you suggest? As I said, calculating a sane value is not simple. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Thu Jul 3 20:39:41 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3806] xfce4-about dialog shows and resizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703183941.78A89F29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 ------- Comment #9 from michael.s.gilbert at gmail.com 2008-07-03 18:39 UTC ------- > And what horizontal pixel width that makes sense on everyone's display at > everyone's resolution at everyone's font size would you suggest? As I said, > calculating a sane value is not simple. like i said, ignore the font size, people can use the horizontal scroll if they're using large fonts. i think you have to assume 640x480 is the minimum resolution used nowadays. so choose a value less than 640 that fits the text at its default font size reasonably. besides you've hard-coded the vertical size of xfce4-about to 270 pixels, why can't you do the same with the horizontal? as an aside, i've been meaning to report on the problems i've been having with xfce settings dialogs on my eeepc (which has a max res of 640x480). most of the dialogs assume a window height larger than 480, which makes a lot of stuff unusable. you aren't ahering to your own dogma there, why make a special case about it here? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Thu Jul 3 20:56:01 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 18:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3806] xfce4-about dialog shows and resizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703185601.A213AF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 ------- Comment #10 from bjt23 at cornell.edu 2008-07-03 18:56 UTC ------- (In reply to comment #9) > > And what horizontal pixel width that makes sense on everyone's display at > > everyone's resolution at everyone's font size would you suggest? As I said, > > calculating a sane value is not simple. > > like i said, ignore the font size, people can use the horizontal scroll if > they're using large fonts. i think you have to assume 640x480 is the minimum > resolution used nowadays. so choose a value less than 640 that fits the text > at its default font size reasonably. There is no default font size. > besides you've hard-coded the vertical size of xfce4-about to 270 pixels, why > can't you do the same with the horizontal? I didn't do that. I don't know who did, but I think that's semi-foolish. Vertical sizing for text is a lot easier to fudge, though, esp given that no one expects a decent-length document to fit on one 'screen' vertically. > as an aside, i've been meaning to report on the problems i've been having with > xfce settings dialogs on my eeepc (which has a max res of 640x480). Please open a new bug for that. This bug is for the about dialog. > most of > the dialogs assume a window height larger than 480, which makes a lot of stuff > unusable. We've talked about this a while ago... it might be possible to add scrolled windows to the dialogs so they can scroll, but dealing with screen heights less than 480 is a bit... retarded. > you aren't ahering to your own dogma there, why make a special case > about it here? Psh, don't give me this dogma crap. Either be useful, or don't post here at all. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Thu Jul 3 21:19:06 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3806] xfce4-about dialog shows and resizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703191906.BFDB6F29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 ------- Comment #11 from michael.s.gilbert at gmail.com 2008-07-03 19:19 UTC ------- > There is no default font size. so, choose something that is reasonable and size the box for that. 590 pixels works for me with 100 dpi Sans 9 fonts. > Psh, don't give me this dogma crap. Either be useful, or don't post here at > all. i am trying to be useful. inflamatory statements like this are not useful. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Thu Jul 3 22:25:57 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3806] xfce4-about dialog shows and resizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080703202557.A8091F29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 ------- Comment #12 from bjt23 at cornell.edu 2008-07-03 20:25 UTC ------- (In reply to comment #11) > > There is no default font size. > > so, choose something that is reasonable and size the box for that. 590 pixels > works for me with 100 dpi Sans 9 fonts. Sans 9? That's pretty small. And 'Sans' isn't useful -- that could be Arial, Helvetica, Bitstream Vera Sans, etc. They all have different metrics (in particular Vera is pretty wide on average compared to other sans-serif fonts). > > Psh, don't give me this dogma crap. Either be useful, or don't post here at > > all. > > i am trying to be useful. inflamatory statements like this are not useful. Sooo sorry I responded to your inflammatory statement with one of my own. Seriously, give it a rest. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Sat Jul 5 22:42:53 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 3806] xfce4-about dialog shows and resizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080705204253.889E3F29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3806 ------- Comment #13 from michael.s.gilbert at gmail.com 2008-07-05 20:42 UTC ------- > Sooo sorry I responded to your inflammatory statement with one of my own. > Seriously, give it a rest. my statement was not intended to be inflamatory. you misinterpreted it as such. i chose the term dogma because its definition is "a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds" [1]. the intent was to guide you into considering the fact that the evidence at hand contradicts your beliefs -- the xfce settings dialogs are statically sized, so why can't the same be done for the about dialog (at least until there is a better/autosizing solution)? like i've said many times, this is a very minor issue -- and certainly not worth getting into a heated argument over. however, it affects whether xfce looks polished and professional, and that is important. also consider that your actions and words on this bts very much affect xfce's image. since it is so easy to make the change, why not just do it? thank you for your consideration. [1] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dogma -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 7 20:52:25 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:52:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4206] New: xfce-extra-icons: fails to install/update index.theme Message-ID: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4206 Summary: xfce-extra-icons: fails to install/update index.theme Product: Xfce Version: 4.4.2 Platform: PC (x86) OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: Medium Component: general AssignedTo: xfce-bugs at xfce.org ReportedBy: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl On a minimal Lunar Linux system with only xfce icons/themes installed, /usr/share/icons/gnome/index.theme is not created/updated so subsequent calls to gtk-update-icon-cache will fail. See also: http://bugs.lunar-linux.org/view.php?id=349 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 7 21:00:23 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4206] xfce-extra-icons: fails to install/update index.theme In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080707190023.854E5F29E3@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4206 ------- Comment #1 from bjt23 at cornell.edu 2008-07-07 19:00 UTC ------- We don't install icons to the 'gnome' icon theme, do we? What does this have to do with xfce? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 7 21:09:22 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4206] xfce-extra-icons: fails to install/update index.theme In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080707190922.47690F29E3@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4206 bjt23 at cornell.edu changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #2 from bjt23 at cornell.edu 2008-07-07 19:09 UTC ------- Oh, I think I see. This definitely isn't our bug. This 'codeblocks' program is assuming that /usr/share/icons/gnome/index.theme must exist, when there's no reason why it should. It shouldn't be a fatal error. Bug the 'codeblocks' people. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 7 21:56:13 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4206] xfce-extra-icons: fails to install/update index.theme In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080707195613.72472F29E3@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4206 ------- Comment #3 from duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl 2008-07-07 19:56 UTC ------- (In reply to comment #2) > Oh, I think I see. This definitely isn't our bug. The xfce-extra-icons module in Lunar Linux installs in /usr/share/icons/gnome Is that a mistake? Where does xfce expect them to be installed? > This 'codeblocks' program is assuming that /usr/share/icons/gnome/index.theme > must exist, when there's no reason why it should. It shouldn't be a fatal > error. Bug the 'codeblocks' people. Already done. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 7 22:16:36 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4206] xfce-extra-icons: fails to install/update index.theme In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080707201636.3D017F29E3@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4206 ------- Comment #4 from bjt23 at cornell.edu 2008-07-07 20:16 UTC ------- (In reply to comment #3) > > The xfce-extra-icons module in Lunar Linux installs in /usr/share/icons/gnome > Is that a mistake? Where does xfce expect them to be installed? I don't use Lunar, so I really don't know. Xfce doesn't ship a 'xfce-extra-icons' package. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From xfce-bugs at xfce.org Tue Jul 8 00:24:40 2008 From: xfce-bugs at xfce.org (Quentin Cleveland) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:24:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [SPAMKLASSAT av SU] RE: 71% Savings ...3 Days Only Message-ID: <20080708132441.45536.qmail@CZCE01W009> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce-bugs/attachments/20080708/b3f5caca/attachment.html From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Tue Jul 8 12:12:09 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4207] New: doc (code) improvements Message-ID: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4207 Summary: doc (code) improvements Product: Xfce Version: 4.4.2 Platform: PC (x86) OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: trivial Priority: Medium Component: xfce-utils AssignedTo: xfce-bugs at xfce.org ReportedBy: matthias.krueger at famsik.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080404 Iceweasel/2.0.0.14 (Debian-2.0.0.14-2) Build Identifier: I noticed that the file file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/index.html is not valid. There is no doctype. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. go to http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input 2. copy the content of the file /usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/index.html into the white field 3. press "check" Actual Results: The validator said: "This page is not Valid (no Doctype found)! Result: Failed validation, 2 Errors" Expected Results: The validator should have said: "This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict! Result: Passed validation" I made a patch: file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/index.html: Xfce Documentation

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image of the xfce-mouse
file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/xfce-chunk.css: body { font: "Vera Sans", "Arial", "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; margin: 2em; background-color: #F3F4F8} h1,h2,h3,h4 { color: #11375F; } h3 { margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 0; } dt { margin-top: 0.2em; } a { font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; } a:link,a:active { color: #1A5593; } a:visited { color: #1A5593; } a:hover { color: #3366FF; text-decoration: underline; } hr { background-color: #11375F; border-style: solid; } li { list-style-type: square; } dt { font-weight: bold; } .programlisting { background-color: #F8F9FD; border-color: #8593B3; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; padding: 0.5em; } .center { display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;} -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Fri Jul 11 13:01:08 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4213] New: Deprecate XfceDesktopEntry in libxfce4util Message-ID: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4213 Summary: Deprecate XfceDesktopEntry in libxfce4util Product: Xfce Version: unknown Platform: PC (x86) OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: Medium Component: general AssignedTo: benny at xfce.org ReportedBy: nick at xfce.org QAContact: jasper at xfce.org CC: xfce-bugs at xfce.org I think we should deprecate XfceDesktopEntry in libxfce4util. The code is only used in some places and XfceRc is much more powerful for reading data from .ini like files. It's also a bit confusing to provide 2 ways of reading desktop files in the same library. For the time we could deprecate it and replace the internal code with GKeyFile (or XfceRc if we add a function to create a new XfceRc from data). This way we reduce the amount of code in libxfce4util to a minimum. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 14 11:41:14 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 2034] Add "Hibernate" Option to End session menu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080714094114.3358CF2A85@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2034 pollux at xfce.org changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #734|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | Attachment #734 is|0 |1 patch| | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Wed Jul 16 06:46:01 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4233] New: compiling error libxfce4ui Message-ID: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4233 Summary: compiling error libxfce4ui Product: Xfce Version: 4.5.x (SVN trunk) Platform: PC (x86) OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: Medium Component: general AssignedTo: xfce-bugs at xfce.org ReportedBy: wolput at onsneteindhoven.nl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070206 Firefox/3.0.1 Build Identifier: When compiling libxfce4ui (revision 27308) with gcc4.3 I get the following error: /src/xfce4/libxfce4ui$ make In file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdkspawn.h:26, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdk.h:52, from xfce-execute.c:30: /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gspawn.h:22:2: error: #error "Only can be included directly." make[3]: *** [libxfce4ui_1_la-xfce-execute.lo] Error 1 Reproducible: Always -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Wed Jul 16 10:29:19 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4233] compiling error libxfce4ui In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080716082919.4E4E5F2A85@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4233 nick at xfce.org changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|xfce-bugs at xfce.org |nick at xfce.org ------- Comment #1 from nick at xfce.org 2008-07-16 08:29 UTC ------- It looks like a problem in glib, do you have the latest unstable release of glib installed? Will take a look at it tonight. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 21 13:37:18 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4238] New: Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop Message-ID: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4238 Summary: Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop Product: Xfce Version: unknown Platform: PC (x86) OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: Medium Component: general AssignedTo: xfce-bugs at xfce.org ReportedBy: gregorypierce at mac.com If you are starting from a server distro (say ubuntu server) and you install the distro xfce4 and gdm, what will happen is that you will get a happily running distro with NO way to stop the xfce desktop and no way to get to a terminal so that you can add more functionality to it (like the terminal which is packaged separately) leaving you with a pretty busted desktop unless you can determine the IP address of the machine. If the machine is part of a server farm (on a virtual server) - good luck with that since you can't get to the terminal to do ifconfig or anything else. If xterm is available - add THAT to the menu. If there is a way to stop the window manager and that to the logout screen. There is no way to stop it :( -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 21 13:37:19 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4239] New: Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop Message-ID: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4239 Summary: Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop Product: Xfce Version: unknown Platform: PC (x86) OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: Medium Component: general AssignedTo: xfce-bugs at xfce.org ReportedBy: gregorypierce at mac.com If you are starting from a server distro (say ubuntu server) and you install the distro xfce4 and gdm, what will happen is that you will get a happily running distro with NO way to stop the xfce desktop and no way to get to a terminal so that you can add more functionality to it (like the terminal which is packaged separately) leaving you with a pretty busted desktop unless you can determine the IP address of the machine. If the machine is part of a server farm (on a virtual server) - good luck with that since you can't get to the terminal to do ifconfig or anything else. If xterm is available - add THAT to the menu. If there is a way to stop the window manager and that to the logout screen. There is no way to stop it :( -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 21 15:21:54 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4239] Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080721132154.E6127F2A85@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4239 jasper at xfce.org changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #1 from jasper at xfce.org 2008-07-21 13:21 UTC ------- 1 - Talk to your distro, they need to configure Xfce correctly. There is a terminal entry in the default Xfce menu. 2 - What do you mean, there's no way to stop it? You mean other than log out/restart/shutdown? Why should there be? 3 - You can always do Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a console login prompt, isn't it? 4 - You can run anything you want by choosing 'Run program...' from the menu, or pressing Alt-F2. I'm sorry, but I don't see how this is a bug in Xfce. Feel free to reopen it if you don't agree (but please do explain why ;-). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 21 15:39:24 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4239] Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080721133924.B82F9F2A88@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4239 ------- Comment #2 from pollux at xfce.org 2008-07-21 13:39 UTC ------- *** Bug 4238 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 21 15:39:24 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4238] Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080721133924.A08D0F2A85@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4238 pollux at xfce.org changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |DUPLICATE ------- Comment #1 from pollux at xfce.org 2008-07-21 13:39 UTC ------- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 4239 *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 21 17:25:36 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4239] Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080721152536.EEFF1F2A85@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4239 gregorypierce at mac.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | ------- Comment #3 from gregorypierce at mac.com 2008-07-21 15:25 UTC ------- 1) The distro doesn't install XFCE - it is installed by the user using apt-get. I'm assuming that the Xfce project is the one that architects the apt repository. If that is incorrect then I will file this as a bug with the apt team. 2) You can log out, restart, and shutdown and when you do you will get back to the same situation as gdm will start xfce as soon as the machine is ready. 3) Is a valid solution for people who know something about Linux and don't rely on the desktop as most users do. 4) Again, if the functionality is there to actually open a terminal in the downloaded Xfce, how would a person know this when the install the core application from apt? When you right click on the desktop you will get {Settings, Accessories, Network, Help, About, Quit}. Nothing in settings addresses it, nothing in accessories talks about the terminal/xterm etc (so to the user - does it exist?), Network speaks to Lynx which is an application that is called out - so why wouldn't terminal be called out - lynx is of far less importance than being able to get to the command line, etc. So that's why I don't agree. Functionality for the terminal should be obvious and accessible. The only way to get terminal to show up is to download another apt package and if you don't grab that one by default you are left with a situation that a novice/normal user will be lost in because they won't see a clear way to get back to a terminal to remedy the problem. I can certainly understand that you may disagree, but this is low-hanging fruit that would make life MUCH easier for people who are unfamiliar with Xfce or Linux in general. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. From bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org Mon Jul 21 18:13:18 2008 From: bugzilla-daemon at xfce.org (bugzilla-daemon@xfce.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Xfce-bugs] [Bug 4239] Xfce by default has no terminal option in the desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080721161318.BC1D0F2A85@mocha.foo-projects.org> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, please visit: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4239 pollux at xfce.org changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #4 from pollux at xfce.org 2008-07-21 16:13 UTC ------- (In reply to comment #3) > 1) The distro doesn't install XFCE - it is installed by the user using apt-get. > I'm assuming that the Xfce project is the one that architects the apt > repository. If that is incorrect then I will file this as a bug with the apt > team. You are indeed wrong. The apt-get repository is build by your distribution. The Xfce project only provides tarballs containing the sources file (sometimes some rpm packages too). If you're not happy about what your distribution installs when you apt-get install Xfce see with them. There is nothing the Xfce Team can do for you except presenting some ways to reach a terminal like Jasper did. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.