From benni.buch at gmx.de Tue Mar 4 15:56:35 2008 From: benni.buch at gmx.de (Benjamin Buch) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:56:35 +0100 Subject: Change individual icons? Message-ID: <20080304145635.GA29637@fuzzipelz> Is it possible with Thunar to change individual icons? For example, I have shortcuts to several folders on my desktop, and I would like to assign every one of them a seperate icon for better differentiation. Benjamin From corsac at debian.org Tue Mar 4 16:04:55 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:04:55 +0100 Subject: Change individual icons? In-Reply-To: <20080304145635.GA29637@fuzzipelz> References: <20080304145635.GA29637@fuzzipelz> Message-ID: <20080304150454.GB29733@molly.corsac.net> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:56:35PM +0000, Benjamin Buch wrote: > Is it possible with Thunar to change individual icons? > > For example, I have shortcuts to several folders on my desktop, and I > would like to assign every one of them a seperate icon for better > differentiation. I dont think so, but you can add emblems to them. (right clic, properties, emblems) -- Yves-Alexis From corsac at debian.org Tue Mar 4 16:27:21 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:27:21 +0100 Subject: Change individual icons? In-Reply-To: <20080304150454.GB29733@molly.corsac.net> References: <20080304145635.GA29637@fuzzipelz> <20080304150454.GB29733@molly.corsac.net> Message-ID: <20080304152721.GC29733@molly.corsac.net> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 03:04:55PM +0000, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:56:35PM +0000, Benjamin Buch wrote: > > Is it possible with Thunar to change individual icons? > > > > For example, I have shortcuts to several folders on my desktop, and I > > would like to assign every one of them a seperate icon for better > > differentiation. > > I dont think so, but you can add emblems to them. (right clic, properties, > emblems) But it seems that thunar emblems wont be displayed by xfdesktop. -- Yves-Alexis From mike.massonnet at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 19:30:24 2008 From: mike.massonnet at gmail.com (mike.massonnet@gmail.com) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ANN: xfce4-clipman-plugin version 0.8.1 released Message-ID: <20080304183024.2A992F29D8@mocha.foo-projects.org> Hello Clipman users, This is a small version bump to fix a critical bug that has been lying around for a moment. See bug #3304 for reference. Other wishlists and normal bugs are postponned. Enjoy, mike Download this release: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/xfce4-clipman-plugin/xfce4-clipman-plugin-0.8.1.tar.bz2 Changelog: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/xfce4-clipman-plugin/ChangeLog Project website: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-clipman-plugin/ From bjt23 at cornell.edu Tue Mar 4 23:03:04 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:03:04 -0800 Subject: call for advertising: google summer of code 2008 Message-ID: <47CDC718.7080109@cornell.edu> Hi all, As some of you already know, I'm in the process of applying to Google's Summer of Code as a mentoring organisation. Xfce applied in 2006, but wasn't accepted. I don't really know why, but hopefully this year we can do a bit better. To that end, I've created a few pages on our wiki, and people have been working on them for the past couple weeks: http://wiki.xfce.org/gsoc-2008-ideas http://wiki.xfce.org/gsoc-2008-mentors http://wiki.xfce.org/gsoc-2008-students Now, we won't know if we've been accepted into the program until March 17th. However, I'd like to generate some interest for our participation in the program; in particular, I'd like to get some names on that 'students' wiki page. So, if you don't mind, if you have a blog, or some other means of publishing to a group of people (via means other than spam, of course), could you please do a little advertising for us? Just point out that we're applying to the program, we're looking for student participants, and give a link to our wiki page (the main 'ideas' page). Thanks! -brian From kristjan.siimson at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 02:15:50 2008 From: kristjan.siimson at gmail.com (Kristjan Siimson) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:15:50 -0800 Subject: Supported character codings in Xfce Message-ID: Dear Xfce community! Does anybody now what the character codings in Mousepad are limited to? Is it hard coded or dynamic? If the latter, then is there a way to figure out the supported character codings? Sincerely Kristjan Siimson From bjt23 at cornell.edu Fri Mar 7 02:24:05 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:24:05 -0800 Subject: Supported character codings in Xfce In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47D09935.6010008@cornell.edu> Kristjan Siimson wrote: > Does anybody now what the character codings in Mousepad are limited > to? Is it hard coded or dynamic? If the latter, then is there a way to > figure out the supported character codings? I'm pretty sure it supports whatever encodings glib supports, which should be whatever your system iconv() implementation supports. There are a few hard-coded charsets in the 'save as' dialog, but you can also enter an arbitrary encoding. -brian From kristjan.siimson at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 02:36:56 2008 From: kristjan.siimson at gmail.com (Kristjan Siimson) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:36:56 -0800 Subject: Supported character codings in Xfce In-Reply-To: <47D09935.6010008@cornell.edu> References: <47D09935.6010008@cornell.edu> Message-ID: Thank you for your prompt answer! 2008/3/6, Brian J. Tarricone : > Kristjan Siimson wrote: > > > Does anybody now what the character codings in Mousepad are limited > > to? Is it hard coded or dynamic? If the latter, then is there a way to > > figure out the supported character codings? > > > I'm pretty sure it supports whatever encodings glib supports, which > should be whatever your system iconv() implementation supports. > > There are a few hard-coded charsets in the 'save as' dialog, but you can > also enter an arbitrary encoding. > > -brian > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > From enrico.troeger at uvena.de Sat Mar 8 17:28:56 2008 From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (enrico.troeger@uvena.de) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ANN: xfce4-dict-plugin version 0.3.0 released Message-ID: <20080308162856.F3E21F29D8@mocha.foo-projects.org> Hi, here is a new xfce4-dict-plugin release. In the main dialog there are now radio buttons to quickly change the search method(dict, web, aspell). A cool new feature was added: aspell support. This allows you to not only search for translations but also check certain words or phrases for spelling. This feature only works if you have the aspell binary installed on your system. Furthermore, there were some bugfixes and minor usability improvements. Check it out and have fun ;-). Download this release: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/xfce4-dict-plugin/xfce4-dict-plugin-0.3.0.tar.gz Changelog: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/xfce4-dict-plugin/ChangeLog Project website: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-dict-plugin/ From sabutay at gmail.com Sat Mar 8 22:48:25 2008 From: sabutay at gmail.com (Fatih Arslan) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:48:25 +0200 Subject: Right click menu don't start (XfceDesktopMenu init failed) Message-ID: <6bed651c0803081348h52eeebb2hc03e5a11bc491705@mail.gmail.com> Hi to everyone, I just build some rpm's, I've installed all packages in the right order, but however i got some annoying bugs. My menu do won't appear , if i opened it from the console i get the error: ************************** [code]** (xfdesktop:5630): CRITICAL **: XfceDesktopMenu init failed (The XfceDesktopMenu module could not be loaded: /usr/lib/xfce4/modules/xfce4_desktop_menu.so: undefined symbol: desktop_menuspec_path_free) ** (xfdesktop:5630): WARNING **: xfdesktop: Unable to initialise menu module. Right-click menu will be unavailable.[/code] ************************** I can see the desktop icon's, i can change my desktop wallpaper, the middle-click with the mouse also works, except the right-click menu. The menu in the panel don't work too. How can i fix it ? My spec file is : http://rafb.net/p/m0g42C31.html -- Fatih ARSLAN blog.arsln.org murekkep.org From bjt23 at cornell.edu Sun Mar 9 00:22:42 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:22:42 -0800 Subject: Right click menu don't start (XfceDesktopMenu init failed) In-Reply-To: <6bed651c0803081348h52eeebb2hc03e5a11bc491705@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bed651c0803081348h52eeebb2hc03e5a11bc491705@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080308152242.080306a3@kepler> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:48:25 +0200 Fatih Arslan wrote: > My menu do won't appear , if i opened it from the console i get the > error: > > ************************** > [code]** (xfdesktop:5630): CRITICAL **: XfceDesktopMenu init failed > (The XfceDesktopMenu module could not be loaded: > /usr/lib/xfce4/modules/xfce4_desktop_menu.so: undefined symbol: > desktop_menuspec_path_free) > > ** (xfdesktop:5630): WARNING **: xfdesktop: Unable to initialise menu > module. Right-click menu will be unavailable.[/code] > > ************************** > > I can see the desktop icon's, i can change my desktop wallpaper, the > middle-click with the mouse also works, except the right-click menu. > The menu in the panel don't work too. How can i fix it ? No idea. Have you tried compiling directly from source, without using rpm? Does that work? Try running 'ldd -r -v' on the .so file and see if there are other unresolved symbols. If there are, it sounds like a weird linker problem, possibly caused by the Makefile being generated incorrectly. Not sure why that would happen though. -brian From sabutay at gmail.com Sun Mar 9 11:37:08 2008 From: sabutay at gmail.com (Fatih Arslan) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:37:08 +0200 Subject: Right click menu don't start (XfceDesktopMenu init failed) In-Reply-To: <20080308152242.080306a3@kepler> References: <6bed651c0803081348h52eeebb2hc03e5a11bc491705@mail.gmail.com> <20080308152242.080306a3@kepler> Message-ID: <6bed651c0803090337jdad6f58g89377b3ed382b78c@mail.gmail.com> I've tried to compile directly from the source (4.4.2), but without any success. Ldd -v -r gives this output: http://rafb.net/p/wrqpK094.html On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:48:25 +0200 Fatih Arslan wrote: > > > My menu do won't appear , if i opened it from the console i get the > > error: > > > > ************************** > > [code]** (xfdesktop:5630): CRITICAL **: XfceDesktopMenu init failed > > (The XfceDesktopMenu module could not be loaded: > > /usr/lib/xfce4/modules/xfce4_desktop_menu.so: undefined symbol: > > desktop_menuspec_path_free) > > > > ** (xfdesktop:5630): WARNING **: xfdesktop: Unable to initialise menu > > module. Right-click menu will be unavailable.[/code] > > > > ************************** > > > > I can see the desktop icon's, i can change my desktop wallpaper, the > > middle-click with the mouse also works, except the right-click menu. > > The menu in the panel don't work too. How can i fix it ? > > No idea. Have you tried compiling directly from source, without using > rpm? Does that work? > > Try running 'ldd -r -v' on the .so file and see if there are other > unresolved symbols. If there are, it sounds like a weird linker > problem, possibly caused by the Makefile being generated incorrectly. > Not sure why that would happen though. > > -brian > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > -- Fatih ARSLAN blog.arsln.org murekkep.org From bjt23 at cornell.edu Sun Mar 9 21:43:02 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:43:02 -0700 Subject: Right click menu don't start (XfceDesktopMenu init failed) In-Reply-To: <6bed651c0803090337jdad6f58g89377b3ed382b78c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6bed651c0803081348h52eeebb2hc03e5a11bc491705@mail.gmail.com> <20080308152242.080306a3@kepler> <6bed651c0803090337jdad6f58g89377b3ed382b78c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080309134302.3c4815f2@kepler> Please don't top-post. On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:37:08 +0200 Fatih Arslan wrote: > I've tried to compile directly from the source (4.4.2), but without > any success. > Ldd -v -r gives this output: http://rafb.net/p/wrqpK094.html I built the source package available here: http://www.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.2/src/xfdesktop-4.4.2.tar.bz2 ... and it works fine for me. desktop_menuspec_path_free() is defined in xfdesktop-4.4.2/modules/menu/desktop-menuspec.c, line 631. If you're using any custom patches to xfdesktop, that's probably your problem. Otherwise, I have no idea. -brian > > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Brian J. Tarricone > wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:48:25 +0200 Fatih Arslan wrote: > > > > > My menu do won't appear , if i opened it from the console i get > > > the error: > > > > > > ************************** > > > [code]** (xfdesktop:5630): CRITICAL **: XfceDesktopMenu init > > > failed (The XfceDesktopMenu module could not be loaded: > > > /usr/lib/xfce4/modules/xfce4_desktop_menu.so: undefined symbol: > > > desktop_menuspec_path_free) > > > > > > ** (xfdesktop:5630): WARNING **: xfdesktop: Unable to initialise > > > menu module. Right-click menu will be unavailable.[/code] > > > > > > ************************** > > > > > > I can see the desktop icon's, i can change my desktop wallpaper, > > > the middle-click with the mouse also works, except the > > > right-click menu. The menu in the panel don't work too. How > > > can i fix it ? > > > > No idea. Have you tried compiling directly from source, without > > using rpm? Does that work? > > > > Try running 'ldd -r -v' on the .so file and see if there are other > > unresolved symbols. If there are, it sounds like a weird linker > > problem, possibly caused by the Makefile being generated > > incorrectly. Not sure why that would happen though. > > > > -brian > > _______________________________________________ > > Xfce mailing list > > Xfce at xfce.org > > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > > http://www.xfce.org > > > > > From sabutay at gmail.com Sun Mar 9 22:18:12 2008 From: sabutay at gmail.com (Fatih Arslan) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:18:12 +0200 Subject: Right click menu don't start (XfceDesktopMenu init failed) In-Reply-To: <20080309134302.3c4815f2@kepler> References: <6bed651c0803081348h52eeebb2hc03e5a11bc491705@mail.gmail.com> <20080308152242.080306a3@kepler> <6bed651c0803090337jdad6f58g89377b3ed382b78c@mail.gmail.com> <20080309134302.3c4815f2@kepler> Message-ID: <6bed651c0803091418n717de5d3yae15fa69d4a4b75a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/9, Brian J. Tarricone : > Please don't top-post. > > > I built the source package available here: > http://www.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.2/src/xfdesktop-4.4.2.tar.bz2 > ... and it works fine for me. desktop_menuspec_path_free() is defined > in xfdesktop-4.4.2/modules/menu/desktop-menuspec.c, line 631. > > If you're using any custom patches to xfdesktop, that's probably your > problem. Otherwise, I have no idea. > > > -brian > > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > Sorry for the post on the top, that will never happen again. I've just install it from an other rpm-based distro, and voila there is no mistake and it works. I think its something with my compile configurations. For example there is other mistakes like no mousewheel-zooming in Thunar. Thanks in advance Regards -- Fatih ARSLAN blog.arsln.org murekkep.org From bjt23 at cornell.edu Mon Mar 10 10:04:04 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:04:04 -0700 Subject: summer of code application guidelines Message-ID: <20080310020404.2e54ecc8@kepler> Hi all, I've put up a page on the wiki with some student application guidelines: http://wiki.xfce.org/gsoc-2008-guidelines As I said before, we haven't yet been accepted into the program (I'll be submitting the application tomorrow), but it's a good time to start thinking about what you want to do and discussing it on the mailing list (xfce4-dev, please) and/or in our IRC channel (#xfce on Freenode). -brian From sofar at foo-projects.org Mon Mar 10 11:20:01 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (sofar@foo-projects.org) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:20:01 +0100 (CET) Subject: Xfce ML FAQ Message-ID: <20080310102001.E2188F29F5@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Welcome to the Xfce users mailing list FAQ. This e-mail will provide you with some valuable clues and hints on getting your questions about Xfce answered, either by hints on where to find the documentation or support or direct answers to the most common questions. This FAQ message is sent periodically to the Xfce users mailinglist and to new users. You will also find some more general tips and pointers about this mailinglist and the Xfce project, such as related projects and groups. Feel free to suggest additional content to this FAQ, by sending it to the maintainer of this FAQ (listed at the bottom). Index: o General mailinglist information o Which lists are there? (and what are they for?) o Which Xfce user/project groups exist? o So what if I need help? o I've read the websites and I still need help! o No disclaimers please o Quoting style? o What about you guys? o Most commonly asked questions o Xfce ML FAQ - maintainer o General mailinglist information The Xfce users mailinglist is hosted at our joint project servers (foo-projects.org) and uses "mailman" to interface users, subscriptions and stuff like that. You will need to be subscribed to post to the mailinglists. Here are some useful links to interface with the mailinglists: View all lists: http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce Online Archive: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce o Which lists are there? (and what are they for?) There are "developer" and "user" lists. The general (this) user mailing list for Xfce is "xfce at xfce.org". This is the typical list to discuss problems that might not be bugs, questions for help, exchanging tips and tricks and general news that might interest any Xfce user. If you wish to discuss development issues and bugs, please refer to the development mailing list "xfce4-dev at xfce.org". There is an obsolete list called "xfce-dev" as well but since all of the development is done on xfce version 4 this list is not used. Specific lists also exist for translations (xfce-i18n at xfce.org), announcements from the Xfce team (xfce-announce at xfce.org), commits and autogenerated messages (xfce4-commits at xfce.org, xfce-bugs at xfce.org). Other related projects also sometimes have mailinglists, some of them are not hosted on foo-projects.org: xfc: xfc-dev at xfce.org thunar: thunar-dev at xfce.org xfce goodies: goodies-dev at xfce.org o Which Xfce user/project groups exist? + The Xfce team - This is the main Xfce development group that develops the Xfce Desktop Environment. This group provides the core items of the Xfce desktop such as session manager, window manager, panel, Xfce libraries and such. This team also takes care of some Xfce applications such as Xfmedia, Orage, Xffm, thunar etc. -> http://xfce.org/ + The Xfce i18n team - a enthusiastic group of translators from all over the world is working actively on updating and adding new translations to the Xfce components. -> http://i18n.xfce.org/ + The Xfce Goodies group - Any 3rd-party Xfce application is considered an automatic member of the goodies team. The team shares a website at http://goodies.xfce.org/ and hosts a public SVN repository. Everyone is welcome to contribute his Xfce application here! + Individual Xfce projects - Many Xfce developers and enthusiasts have contributed or developed Xfce applications themselves. Some are too large (xfc -> http://xfc.xfce.org/, pyxfce -> http://pyxfce.xfce.org/) to be a goody and have their own website. You can find all of them on the Xfce Directory (once it's finished!). -> http://directory.xfce.org/ o So what if I need help? Getting help might be easier then you think. There's no phone number you can call for Xfce support but we do have a large group of people that are willing to help you in other ways. Here's a short list of them: Official documentation: http://www.xfce.org/documentation/ User Forum: http://forum.xfce.org/ IRC channel: irc://irc.freenode.net/#xfce Wiki: http://wiki.xfce.org/ Bugreports: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/ List archives: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce Other FAQ's exist and may prove useful to you: http://www.spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/xfce4/index.php#faq o I've read the websites and I still need help! Asking on a mailing list for help is hard: Everyone will read your question and will criticise you if you submit a question in the wrong way. Here's some hints to maximize the chances that you get what you want as quickly as possible: + Do some research first + Ask the right people + When asking in IRC, ask for pointers to help, not the explanation + When asking in mailinglists, format your mail properly + Use english + Be specific and detailed (but not too much) + Re-post the solution so others can learn If you follow these rules everyone will be happy to help you! But don't be afraid to ask though, this mailinglists is exactly for asking questions! There's a good in-depth document that explains the etiquette that most senior ML members follow. You should read this if you become a frequent ML poster as it explains _why_ we write this way in a really good way: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Take 15 minutes to read this document, it will help you later and you will understand much better how to get your question answered. o No disclaimers please If you are posting from an email account where a legal disclaimer is automatically appended to your outgoing messages, please disable it. If you cannot, please use a different email account, or register for a free webmail account (GMail, Yahoo, etc.). Note that such a disclaimer means very little when you post an email to a public mailing list with public archives. Extraneous disclaimer text in email can make your message harder to read, and tends to add a lot of useless content when messages are replied to repeatedly. Remember that you're posting to a community of hundreds of people, and it's impolite to use up their time unnecessarily. o Quoting style? It's very hard to understand a thread of messages if they become replies to replies and everyone mixes quoting styles. That's why there is something called "quoting style", that describes how you should quote the previous posters contents when you reply to a mailinglist message. We prefer that you use "Top quoting". That means that you should put your reply _below_ (Put the quote on top/above your reply) the original poster's message. That way the contents are in chronological order and you can read the entire message thread without figuring out where the reply belongs. Here's a good FAQ on how to quote: http://web.presby.edu/~nnqadmin/nnq/nquote.html Basically: + quote at the top + prune text from the quote that is irrelevant + remove footers and headers (condense) + put the reply directly next to (in between) the original text o What about you guys? Well we're just a bunch of geeks (we need girls) who like Xfce... Most of us work on Xfce outside of our normal daily occupation such as real work or real study (except some lucky people who do both). If you're interested in getting to know the Xfce team a bit closer (and are okay with a little abuse, being teased or ignored etc) you're welcome to join us on our IRC channel (#xfce on the freenode IRC network) or read our blogs. This might not always be about Xfce but that's life. -> http://blog.xfce.org/ o Most commonly asked questions There are a few questions that get asked much more often then any other. We hope we can provide you with the information here to find out for yourself how to find more information about them. + How can I start up applications (to a specific desktop | when I lauch Xfce)? Use the session-manager. If you still have problems with some applications not behaving or remembering their desktop number then you might consider using "devilspie". You can add links to applications in ~/Desktop/Autostart, but the session-manager also remembers which applications you had running when you last logged out (and saved your session!), and will start them again (so don't close your applications before logging out!) + Can I replace Xfce program X with my favorite program Y? Yes, you can. Xfce is developed with the idea of modularity in mind in all components. This means that you can replace xfwm4 with another window manager, replace xfdesktop with rox or idesk, or even nautilus. Most of the times you can just kill the xfce component and start the application you want to run instead, and use the session manager to save your session when you exit. + How can I shutdown my computer in Xfce? Read http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-shutdown + Can I install multiple Xfce versions concurrently? You can actually, but it's a nightmare if you install one of them in a system-default location. The best thing to do is to install every Xfce version in a non-system location like /opt/xfce/$(XFCE_VERSION) and adjust your LD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH to point to the preferred version at run time. + My desktop or desktop menu has disappeared!? It appears that xfdesktop is no longer in control of the desktop. Often xfdesktop has died, or some other program took over the desktop. Make sure that xfdesktop is still running first. Nautilus takes over the desktop by default too. Please start nautilus with the --no-desktop flag, or use gconf-editor and unset the flag that tells nautilus to handle the desktop (/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop). Start xfdesktop again and you should be OK again. + How do I edit the system application menu? The menu is partially autogenerated by xfdesktop. If you want to just delete or add one or two applications, add the proper .desktop file (usually in /usr/share/applications). With the xfce4-menueditor, you can completely customize the menu. + What other (hidden) settings exist? A lot. Take a look into the manual for hidden settings for each component. http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfwm4#hidden_options http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-panel#panel-kiosk + Where can I get Xfce packages for XXX? The up-to-date list of other packages is found on our website and includes links to debian, suse, freebsd etc. packages for Xfce. Please visit: http://www.xfce.org/download/ o Xfce ML FAQ - maintainer The current FAQ maintainer is: sofar at foo-projects.org From enrico.troeger at uvena.de Tue Mar 11 18:23:00 2008 From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:23:00 +0100 Subject: xfce4-dict-plugin vs. xfdict Message-ID: <20080311182300.13ca3a6d.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> Hi all, I'm planning to extend my xfce4-dict-plugin to _also_ be a stand-alone application. I.e., there will also be a xfdict binary which a) opens the plugin's main window if the plugin is loaded in the panel b) starts a usual stand-alone application if the panel is not loaded. So, Xfce also will get a stand-alone dictionary application ;-) and only a little new code is necessary because the main code is reused from the already existing panel plugin code. I still have two questions: a) should I build and install a shared library for the common code (main window, networking code, aspell support code)? Or is it sufficient to build a static library archive(.a) and link it into both binaries? A shared library would be better of course but it would cause more administrative work for a maybe small advantage. We are talking about approx. 1300 lines of source code which would be built into the library. b) how should I call the stand-alone app? xfdict, xfdict4, xfce4-dict, xfce-dict? I'm not really sure how the existing apps were named, some have the "4" in the name, others not. Some are prefixed with "xf", others with "xfce4-". So, what's the best for me? Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080311/720da405/attachment.bin From jannis at xfce.org Tue Mar 11 18:28:15 2008 From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:28:15 +0100 Subject: xfce4-dict-plugin vs. xfdict In-Reply-To: <20080311182300.13ca3a6d.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> References: <20080311182300.13ca3a6d.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> Message-ID: <20080311182815.73890cfb@84.200.240.9> Hey, Am Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:23:00 +0100 schrieb Enrico Tr?ger : > Hi all, > > I'm planning to extend my xfce4-dict-plugin to _also_ be a stand-alone > application. I.e., there will also be a xfdict binary which > a) opens the plugin's main window if the plugin is loaded in the panel > b) starts a usual stand-alone application if the panel is not loaded. > > So, Xfce also will get a stand-alone dictionary application ;-) and > only a little new code is necessary because the main code is reused > from the already existing panel plugin code. > > I still have two questions: > a) should I build and install a shared library for the common code > (main window, networking code, aspell support code)? Or is it > sufficient to build a static library archive(.a) and link it into both > binaries? A shared library would be better of course but it would > cause more administrative work for a maybe small advantage. We are > talking about approx. 1300 lines of source code which would be built > into the library. I'd say just make it static. > b) how should I call the stand-alone app? xfdict, xfdict4, xfce4-dict, > xfce-dict? I'm not really sure how the existing apps were named, some > have the "4" in the name, others not. Some are prefixed with "xf", > others with "xfce4-". So, what's the best for me? Personally, I prefer the xfce4- prefix (like in xfce4-panel or xfce4-appfinder). It's up to you of course. - Jannis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080311/dd0af4e5/signature.bin From greg.sieranski at quoininc.com Wed Mar 12 16:45:31 2008 From: greg.sieranski at quoininc.com (Sieranski, Greg) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:45:31 -0400 Subject: Bug 3863 Message-ID: <20080312114531.315ed2ea@nulogiks.com> Hi all, I just switched from Gnome to XFCE and I am encountering the following bug: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3863 I see at the bottom that there is a fix by replacing the nulls w/ desktops[0]. I am running F8 and all my XFCE stuff can from the fedora repositories. Is there a way to include this fix via a patch or does anyone know when or if this fix will be released? Thanks, Greg Sieranski From rjdohnert at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 02:35:10 2008 From: rjdohnert at gmail.com (Roberto J. Dohnert) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:35:10 -0400 Subject: New XFCE distribution Message-ID: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> Shameless self promotion and information, a double I guess. I have released a Xubuntu based distribution called PC/OS. Home page is http://www.pc-os.org Any proceeds from DVD/CD sales and system sales a percentage will be donated to XFCE. From mmassonnet at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 03:30:54 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:30:54 +0100 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:35:10PM -0400, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote: > Shameless self promotion and information, a double I guess. I have > released a Xubuntu based distribution called PC/OS. > > Home page is http://www.pc-os.org > > Any proceeds from DVD/CD sales and system sales a percentage will be > donated to XFCE. It looks a lot like something I have seen a few days ago... zebuntu. Is there a battle going on just for the wm theme? Maybe it's just me. Good luck mike From ToddAndMargo at verizon.net Thu Mar 13 04:21:14 2008 From: ToddAndMargo at verizon.net (Todd and Margo Chester) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:21:14 -0700 Subject: Yum group install for XFce? Message-ID: <47D89DAA.4050403@verizon.net> Hi All, Anyone know what the CentOS 5.1 yum group install syntax for XFce is? Many thanks, -T From rjdohnert at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 09:37:01 2008 From: rjdohnert at gmail.com (Roberto J. Dohnert) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:37:01 -0400 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> Message-ID: <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> I addressed this on my developers blog. Zebuntu aims to be Zeta and BeOS. I dont. my theme and window decoration are just a nod to Be inc. I dont plan to have backwards compatibility with BeOS or run Be apps. The only way I will have Haiku compatibility is depending on how Haiku adoption goes when (if) its ever released. I wish the Zebuntu team the best of luck and I did ship first ;) but hey PC/OS has been in controlled beta for a year. Mike Massonnet wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:35:10PM -0400, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote: > >> Shameless self promotion and information, a double I guess. I have >> released a Xubuntu based distribution called PC/OS. >> >> Home page is http://www.pc-os.org >> >> Any proceeds from DVD/CD sales and system sales a percentage will be >> donated to XFCE. >> > > It looks a lot like something I have seen a few days ago... zebuntu. Is > there a battle going on just for the wm theme? Maybe it's just me. > > Good luck > mike > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > > From eclipse.magick at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 11:02:50 2008 From: eclipse.magick at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9clipse?=) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:02:50 +0100 Subject: Yum group install for XFce? In-Reply-To: <47D89DAA.4050403@verizon.net> References: <47D89DAA.4050403@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1205402571.10523.3.camel@quidam.lequidam.net> Hello Try to search something like: yum grouplist Don't forget to add the quotation sign when you'll install after ie yum install grouplist "XFCE Desktop" Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 20:21 -0700, Todd and Margo Chester a ?crit : > Hi All, > > Anyone know what the CentOS 5.1 yum group install > syntax for XFce is? > > Many thanks, > -T > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org From enrico.troeger at uvena.de Thu Mar 13 12:59:17 2008 From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:59:17 +0100 Subject: xfce4-dict-plugin vs. xfdict In-Reply-To: <20080311182815.73890cfb@84.200.240.9> References: <20080311182300.13ca3a6d.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> <20080311182815.73890cfb@84.200.240.9> Message-ID: <20080313125917.a1a0e4a6.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:28:15 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann wrote: > > b) how should I call the stand-alone app? xfdict, xfdict4, xfce4-dict, > > xfce-dict? I'm not really sure how the existing apps were named, some > > have the "4" in the name, others not. Some are prefixed with "xf", > > others with "xfce4-". So, what's the best for me? > > Personally, I prefer the xfce4- prefix (like in xfce4-panel or > xfce4-appfinder). It's up to you of course. Ok cool. So I'll call it xfce4-dict. This sounds similar to xfce4-dict-plugin and makes clear it belongs to Xfce. Could anyone rename the SVN directory from xfce4-dict-plugin in xfce4-dict which fits IMO better than with the plugin suffix. Thanks. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some are prefixed with "xf", > > > others with "xfce4-". So, what's the best for me? > > > > Personally, I prefer the xfce4- prefix (like in xfce4-panel or > > xfce4-appfinder). It's up to you of course. > Ok cool. So I'll call it xfce4-dict. This sounds similar to > xfce4-dict-plugin and makes clear it belongs to Xfce. > > Could anyone rename the SVN directory from xfce4-dict-plugin in > xfce4-dict which fits IMO better than with the plugin suffix. > Thanks. You should be able to do it. svn mv https://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-dict-plugin https://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-dict > Regards, > Enrico mike From enrico.troeger at uvena.de Thu Mar 13 13:36:01 2008 From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:36:01 +0100 Subject: xfce4-dict-plugin vs. xfdict In-Reply-To: <20080313121641.GF3123@failure.del> References: <20080311182300.13ca3a6d.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> <20080311182815.73890cfb@84.200.240.9> <20080313125917.a1a0e4a6.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> <20080313121641.GF3123@failure.del> Message-ID: <20080313133601.f4abcb58.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:16:41 +0100, Mike Massonnet wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:59:17PM +0100, Enrico Tr?ger wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:28:15 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann > > wrote: > > > > > > b) how should I call the stand-alone app? xfdict, xfdict4, xfce4-dict, > > > > xfce-dict? I'm not really sure how the existing apps were named, some > > > > have the "4" in the name, others not. Some are prefixed with "xf", > > > > others with "xfce4-". So, what's the best for me? > > > > > > Personally, I prefer the xfce4- prefix (like in xfce4-panel or > > > xfce4-appfinder). It's up to you of course. > > Ok cool. So I'll call it xfce4-dict. This sounds similar to > > xfce4-dict-plugin and makes clear it belongs to Xfce. > > > > Could anyone rename the SVN directory from xfce4-dict-plugin in > > xfce4-dict which fits IMO better than with the plugin suffix. > > Thanks. > > You should be able to do it. > > svn mv https://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-dict-plugin https://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-dict Cool, I'm able to do it ;-). I didn't even try it because I assumed I haven't enough write permissions. Thanks. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080313/d8759ebe/attachment.bin From mmassonnet at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 13:59:32 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:32 +0100 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> Please don't top post. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 04:37:01AM -0400, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote: > I addressed this on my developers blog. Zebuntu aims to be Zeta and > BeOS. I dont. my theme and window decoration are just a nod to Be > inc. I dont plan to have backwards compatibility with BeOS or run Be > apps. The only way I will have Haiku compatibility is depending on how > Haiku adoption goes when (if) its ever released. I wish the Zebuntu > team the best of luck and I did ship first ;) but hey PC/OS has been in > controlled beta for a year. Thanks for the clarification. mike From sergey.manucharian at rmico.com Thu Mar 13 14:42:31 2008 From: sergey.manucharian at rmico.com (Sergey Manucharian) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:42:31 -0600 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> Message-ID: <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:32 +0100 Mike Massonnet wrote: > Please don't top post. Claws-mail shows the thread correctly.... Cheers, Sergey From mmassonnet at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 15:06:05 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:06:05 +0100 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> Message-ID: <20080313140605.GH3123@failure.del> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:42:31AM -0600, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:32 +0100 > Mike Massonnet wrote: > > > Please don't top post. > > Claws-mail shows the thread correctly.... Top posting is not about splitting the thread, indeed the thread is fine here too. It is about answering on the top, while it is a better habit to quote on the top. There must be a top-posting article on wikipedia. > Cheers, > Sergey mike From corsac at debian.org Thu Mar 13 15:02:08 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:02:08 +0100 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> Message-ID: <20080313140208.GC12057@molly.corsac.net> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 01:42:31PM +0000, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:32 +0100 > Mike Massonnet wrote: > > > Please don't top post. > > Claws-mail shows the thread correctly.... It has nothing to do with threading. -- Yves-Alexis From tino.keitel+xfce at tikei.de Thu Mar 13 15:08:14 2008 From: tino.keitel+xfce at tikei.de (Tino Keitel) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:08:14 +0100 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> Message-ID: <20080313140814.GA5305@dose.home.local> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:42:31 -0600, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:32 +0100 > Mike Massonnet wrote: > > > Please don't top post. > > Claws-mail shows the thread correctly.... Top-posting has nothing to do with threading, but with quoting. Regards, Tino From enrico.troeger at uvena.de Thu Mar 13 15:33:34 2008 From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:33:34 +0100 Subject: New XFCE distribution In-Reply-To: <20080313140605.GH3123@failure.del> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> <20080313140605.GH3123@failure.del> Message-ID: <20080313153334.aeda5bfb.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:06:05 +0100, Mike Massonnet wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:42:31AM -0600, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:32 +0100 > > Mike Massonnet wrote: > > > > > Please don't top post. > > > > Claws-mail shows the thread correctly.... > > Top posting is not about splitting the thread, indeed the thread is fine > here too. It is about answering on the top, while it is a better habit > to quote on the top. There must be a top-posting article on wikipedia. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toppost In German, there is a nice expression for this: TOFU - "Text oben, Full-Quote unten", literally translated it means "text above, full quote below". ;-) Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080313/a74bb315/attachment-0001.bin From bjt23 at cornell.edu Thu Mar 13 18:30:06 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:30:06 -0700 Subject: xfce4-dict-plugin vs. xfdict In-Reply-To: <20080313133601.f4abcb58.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> References: <20080311182300.13ca3a6d.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> <20080311182815.73890cfb@84.200.240.9> <20080313125917.a1a0e4a6.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> <20080313121641.GF3123@failure.del> <20080313133601.f4abcb58.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> Message-ID: <47D9649E.7060704@cornell.edu> Enrico Tr?ger wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:16:41 +0100, Mike Massonnet > wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:59:17PM +0100, Enrico Tr?ger wrote: >> >>> Could anyone rename the SVN directory from xfce4-dict-plugin in >>> xfce4-dict which fits IMO better than with the plugin suffix. >>> Thanks. >> >> You should be able to do it. >> >> svn mv https://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-dict-plugin https://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfce4-dict > Cool, I'm able to do it ;-). I didn't even try it because I assumed I > haven't enough write permissions. Thanks. Oof, really? Everyone shouldn't have write access to the root of the tree... need to fix that at some point... -brian From bjt23 at cornell.edu Thu Mar 13 18:50:44 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:50:44 -0700 Subject: OT: posting style (Re: New XFCE distribution) In-Reply-To: <20080313153334.aeda5bfb.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> <20080313140605.GH3123@failure.del> <20080313153334.aeda5bfb.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> Message-ID: <47D96974.2070009@cornell.edu> Enrico Tr?ger wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:06:05 +0100, Mike Massonnet > wrote: > >> Top posting is not about splitting the thread, indeed the thread is fine >> here too. It is about answering on the top, while it is a better habit >> to quote on the top. There must be a top-posting article on wikipedia. > -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toppost > > In German, there is a nice expression for this: > TOFU - "Text oben, Full-Quote unten", literally translated it means > "text above, full quote below". Then I'm afraid most of the rest of geekdom would disagree with you guys ^_~. It's about audience. If your audience expects you to bottom-post, trim quotes to only what's relevant, and interleave your responses with the quoting, then that's what you do. Where I work, top-posting and never trimming quotes is the norm. It's quite gross and impossible to follow if you haven't been in the discussion from the beginning. But that's how it works. I'll rarely reply "correctly" because that's just not expected and it actually confuses people sometimes (yes, someone has told me they were confused with one of my replies). Anyhow, the bottom line: on the Xfce lists, we prefer and expect people to trim quotes to a reasonable level and reply in-line and/or after the quotes. That's our community standard, and it's rude to ignore that. -brian From enrico.troeger at uvena.de Fri Mar 14 08:04:14 2008 From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:04:14 +0100 Subject: OT: posting style (Re: New XFCE distribution) In-Reply-To: <47D96974.2070009@cornell.edu> References: <47D884CE.3030702@gmail.com> <20080313023054.GD3123@failure.del> <47D8E7AD.3080009@gmail.com> <20080313125932.GG3123@failure.del> <20080313074231.624f4f58@rmico.com> <20080313140605.GH3123@failure.del> <20080313153334.aeda5bfb.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> <47D96974.2070009@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <20080314080414.c3e5894a.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:50:44 -0700, "Brian J. Tarricone" wrote: > [ quoting style - top vs bottom post ] > > Where I work, top-posting and never trimming quotes is the norm. It's > quite gross and impossible to follow if you haven't been in the > discussion from the beginning. But that's how it works. I'll rarely > reply "correctly" because that's just not expected and it actually > confuses people sometimes (yes, someone has told me they were confused > with one of my replies). I also experienced this. People who only know the top-post style and never came across other, possibly better styles (:D), they are really confused and sometimes even feel affronted by bottom-post, just because they don't understand it. But hey, aren't there bigger problems in our lifes? Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.key -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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People who only know the top-post style and > never came across other, possibly better styles (:D), they are really > confused and sometimes even feel affronted by bottom-post, just > because > they don't understand it. Well, some people do know about bottom-post, but still persist doing top-post. That's because they include the *full* backlog. Anyone added to the CC: list is able to follow the entire backlog by reading (in natural reading order) everything after the first signature. Then he reads the message itself. I disagree with that kind of mails, but I can understand people using it at work and getting used to it. It's just a pain when they do that on a mailing list :) Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Available Groups: ... XFCE-4.4 I double checked the yum man page and this is the only entry I found: * grouplist [hidden] No explaination was given. No wonder I missed it. Thank you for the help! -T From eclipse.magick at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 23:59:28 2008 From: eclipse.magick at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C9clipse?=) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:59:28 +0100 Subject: Yum group install for XFce? In-Reply-To: <47DAA3BD.4020005@verizon.net> References: <47D89DAA.4050403@verizon.net> <1205402571.10523.3.camel@quidam.lequidam.net> <47DAA3BD.4020005@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1205535568.4247.2.camel@quidam.lequidam.net> when you tape only "yum", you will see all the command options. try this... yum groupinstall "?XFCE-4.4" PS: sorry but i had not centos installed, so i just remenbered this stuff. Le vendredi 14 mars 2008 ? 09:11 -0700, Todd and Margo Chester a ?crit : > > Le mercredi 12 mars 2008 ? 20:21 -0700, Todd and Margo Chester a ?crit : > >> Hi All, > >> > >> Anyone know what the CentOS 5.1 yum group install > >> syntax for XFce is? > >> > >> Many thanks, > >> -T > > ?clipse wrote: > > Hello > > Try to search something like: > > yum grouplist > > > > Don't forget to add the quotation sign when you'll install after ie > > yum install grouplist "XFCE Desktop" > > > > > Hi ?clipse, > > #yum grouplist > ... > Available Groups: > ... > XFCE-4.4 > > > I double checked the yum man page and this is > the only entry I found: > > * grouplist [hidden] > > No explaination was given. No wonder I missed it. > > Thank you for the help! > > -T > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org From naplanetu at gmail.com Sat Mar 15 10:33:31 2008 From: naplanetu at gmail.com (=?KOI8-R?B?9MHSwdMg6dfB3cXOy88=?= (Taras Ivashchenko)) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:33:31 +0300 Subject: Mission of Xfce? Message-ID: <20080315123331.6da1c336.naplanetu@gmail.com> Hello, everybody! About some time ago I chanaged my DE from KDE to Xfce and now enjoy it. My question is mostly for developers of Xfce: what is mission of Xfce? Is it to make only basic light DE (windowmanager+panel+file manager+configurator) or to make as many applications (video/audio players, editors,web browser and so on) as possible (KDE/Gnome way)? -- ????? ???????? 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Llamadas a fijos y m?viles desde 1 c?ntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com From dave at unrealize.co.uk Sat Mar 15 20:13:59 2008 From: dave at unrealize.co.uk (Dave Wood) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:13:59 +0000 Subject: keyboard settings not applied on startup Message-ID: <20080315191359.GA12082@DarkStar> Hi, I've noticed that keyboard settings don't apply and I need to manually open the keyboard settings window each time I start xcfe or resume from hibernation/standby. Is there a command I can use in my startup files to do this automatically? -- Barth's Distinction: There are two types of people: those who divide people into two types, and those who don't. From erikharrison at gmail.com Sat Mar 15 20:48:00 2008 From: erikharrison at gmail.com (Erik Harrison) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:48:00 -0400 Subject: keyboard settings not applied on startup In-Reply-To: <20080315191359.GA12082@DarkStar> References: <20080315191359.GA12082@DarkStar> Message-ID: <5b18a5420803151248j5f0de3ecq94cba8842eee30fb@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Dave Wood wrote: > Hi, I've noticed that keyboard settings don't apply and I need to manually > open the keyboard settings window each time I start xcfe or resume from > hibernation/standby. Sounds like a significant bug - do you mind filing a bug on http://bugzilla.xfce.org/ with your Xfce version, OS, and Gtk+/Glib versions? > > Is there a command I can use in my startup files to do this automatically? > > -- > Barth's Distinction: > There are two types of people: those who divide people into two > types, and those who don't. > > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > -- Erik "Look at me still talking when there is Science to do" From timystery at arcor.de Sat Mar 15 22:28:33 2008 From: timystery at arcor.de (Fabian Nowak) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:28:33 +0100 Subject: xfce4-sensors error with hddtemp In-Reply-To: <47DBD0FF.5040702@yahoo.es> References: <47DBD0FF.5040702@yahoo.es> Message-ID: <1205616513.3728.1.camel@TIM3000.workgroup> Hi! The Debian-only parameter is removed in Subversion. Meanwhile, you can write a wrapper shell script or upgrade to svn. Sorry for the inconvenience of the Debian manpages ;) Fabian Am Samstag, den 15.03.2008, 08:37 -0500 schrieb Luo Hei: > Im using XFCE4.4.1 under Gentoo, with kernel 2.6.24. I updated > xfce-sensors-plugin to 0.10.99.3 with support for hddtemp and lm_sensors > and now I got an error, seems that the plugin is including an > unsupported hddtemp parameter: -F. I looked at rc file but I cant find > any way to modify the command line passed to hddtemp. Is there any way > to fix this? > From jujucece at gmail.com Sat Mar 15 23:45:44 2008 From: jujucece at gmail.com (jujucece@gmail.com) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ANN: xfce4-genmon-plugin version 3.2 released Message-ID: <20080315224544.339CCF29D8@mocha.foo-projects.org> A new version correcting some bugs and adding some functionnalities. (See Changelog) Download this release: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/xfce4-genmon-plugin/xfce4-genmon-plugin-3.2.tar.bz2 Changelog: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/xfce4-genmon-plugin/ChangeLog Project website: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-genmon-plugin/ From dave at unrealize.co.uk Sun Mar 16 21:56:33 2008 From: dave at unrealize.co.uk (Dave Wood) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:56:33 +0000 Subject: keyboard settings not applied on startup In-Reply-To: <5b18a5420803151248j5f0de3ecq94cba8842eee30fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080315191359.GA12082@DarkStar> <5b18a5420803151248j5f0de3ecq94cba8842eee30fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080316205633.GA6257@DarkStar> On (15:48 15/03/08), Erik Harrison put forth the proposition: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Dave Wood wrote: > > Hi, I've noticed that keyboard settings don't apply and I need to manually > > open the keyboard settings window each time I start xcfe or resume from > > hibernation/standby. > > Sounds like a significant bug - do you mind filing a bug on > http://bugzilla.xfce.org/ with your Xfce version, OS, and Gtk+/Glib > versions? Done. http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3948 > > > > > Is there a command I can use in my startup files to do this automatically? > > > > -- > > Barth's Distinction: > > There are two types of people: those who divide people into two > > types, and those who don't. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xfce mailing list > > Xfce at xfce.org > > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > > http://www.xfce.org > > > > > > -- > Erik > "Look at me still talking when there is Science to do" > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org -- Meeting, n.: An assembly of people coming together to decide what person or department not represented in the room must solve a problem. From bjt23 at cornell.edu Tue Mar 18 00:55:08 2008 From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:55:08 -0700 Subject: gsoc results Message-ID: <47DF04DC.1060206@cornell.edu> Hey guys, As some of you probably already noticed, we did not get accepted as a mentoring org for GSoC this year. Ah well. I'll see about asking why we didn't get accepted. There's always next year if anyone has the motivation and time to apply for us. -brian From bff7755a at yandex.ru Tue Mar 18 12:58:05 2008 From: bff7755a at yandex.ru (=?KOI8-R?B?9snExc7Lz9cg4c7E0sXK?=) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:58:05 +0300 Subject: gedit appears in all desktops Message-ID: <851181205841485@webmail54.yandex.ru> Hello, XFCE users. When I run gedit, it appears on all desltops. With other GTK applications all seems OK. How can I solve this problem? From polytan at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 13:23:21 2008 From: polytan at gmail.com (polytan) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:23:21 +0100 Subject: gedit appears in all desktops In-Reply-To: <851181205841485@webmail54.yandex.ru> References: <851181205841485@webmail54.yandex.ru> Message-ID: <741f8c060803180523l6d10b4a4r26b1a37bd140b1f@mail.gmail.com> I have the same pb when I run gedit from root (when editing config files, for example). The "solution" is ctrl+F10, but when you start gedit again, you have to do it again... Polytan 2008/3/18, ???????? ?????? : > > Hello, XFCE users. > > When I run gedit, it appears on all desltops. With other GTK applications > all seems OK. How can I solve this problem? > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > -- -=( Polytan )=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 13:52:20 2008 From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:52:20 +0100 Subject: gedit appears in all desktops In-Reply-To: <741f8c060803180523l6d10b4a4r26b1a37bd140b1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <851181205841485@webmail54.yandex.ru> <741f8c060803180523l6d10b4a4r26b1a37bd140b1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, polytan wrote: > I have the same pb when I run gedit from root (when editing config files, > for example). > > The "solution" is ctrl+F10, but when you start gedit again, you have to do > it again... error... the *SOLUTION* is mousepad? From mark at foresightlinux.org Tue Mar 18 14:16:39 2008 From: mark at foresightlinux.org (Mark Trompell) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:16:39 +0100 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: <20080318130524.7BC1D177808@atuin.die-welt.net> References: <20080318130524.7BC1D177808@atuin.die-welt.net> Message-ID: On 3/18/08, Evgeni Golov wrote: > You got the release date wrong on the homepage. No the date is right, only my mail is late. > But the main question here is: how does it compare to e.g. vlc? Why do > we need yet another media player? I think that could be a nice FAQ > question for you not-yet-so-filled FAQ :) It uses gstreamer, afaik the only gtk based mediaplayer using gstreamer is totem, and that brings in unneeded gnome dependencies. I'm not using xfce to install half of gnome anyway. > Regards > Evgeni, still happy with vlc :) If you're happy with vlc, just go on :) Mark From stephan at xfce.org Tue Mar 18 14:20:18 2008 From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:20:18 +0100 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: References: <20080318130524.7BC1D177808@atuin.die-welt.net> Message-ID: <74b8614e0803180620x724a5301vd7f0e5a336c03a86@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Mark Trompell wrote: > On 3/18/08, Evgeni Golov wrote: > > You got the release date wrong on the homepage. > > No the date is right, only my mail is late. The release-date is wrong, it says 2007, not 2008. > > > But the main question here is: how does it compare to e.g. vlc? Why do > > we need yet another media player? I think that could be a nice FAQ > > question for you not-yet-so-filled FAQ :) > > It uses gstreamer, afaik the only gtk based mediaplayer using > gstreamer is totem, and that brings in unneeded gnome dependencies. > I'm not using xfce to install half of gnome anyway. > > > Regards > > Evgeni, still happy with vlc :) > > If you're happy with vlc, just go on :) > > > Mark Stephan From mark at foresightlinux.org Tue Mar 18 14:23:43 2008 From: mark at foresightlinux.org (Mark Trompell) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:23:43 +0100 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0803180620x724a5301vd7f0e5a336c03a86@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080318130524.7BC1D177808@atuin.die-welt.net> <74b8614e0803180620x724a5301vd7f0e5a336c03a86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/18/08, Stephan Arts wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Mark Trompell wrote: > > On 3/18/08, Evgeni Golov wrote: > > > You got the release date wrong on the homepage. > > > > No the date is right, only my mail is late. > > > The release-date is wrong, it says 2007, not 2008. I didn't see that, when I checked the date, thanks. I probably need to clean my glasses. > > Stephan Mark From mmassonnet at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 14:36:59 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:36:59 +0100 Subject: gedit appears in all desktops In-Reply-To: References: <851181205841485@webmail54.yandex.ru> <741f8c060803180523l6d10b4a4r26b1a37bd140b1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080318133659.GW3123@failure.del> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 01:52:20PM +0100, samuel wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, polytan wrote: > > I have the same pb when I run gedit from root (when editing config files, > > for example). > > > > The "solution" is ctrl+F10, but when you start gedit again, you have to do > > it again... > > error... the *SOLUTION* is mousepad? On that latter string, I had VIM the next commands: ^3Wdw2BP3WdE3BPr Note the space at the end, it's an important bit :) And now I vanish again, and I hope I won't wake up the emacs dinosaurs. From markus.hoenicka at mhoenicka.de Tue Mar 18 18:07:20 2008 From: markus.hoenicka at mhoenicka.de (Markus Hoenicka) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:07:20 +0100 Subject: keyboard layout switcher stopped working Message-ID: <18399.63176.204984.929649@yeti.mininet> Hi all, I've upgraded a FreeBSD box using the portupgrade tool. This tool takes care of all dependencies and updates all installed packages as needed. As a result, I've upgraded all XFCE packages from 4.4.0 to 4.4.2, and the X Window system from 6.9 to 7.3. I can still switch the keyboard layout with a key combo which I've set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf like this: Option "XkbLayout" "us,de" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" However, the XFCE keyboard layout switcher plugin is no longer working. It just displays the flag or text of the default layout (US), but clicking does not alter anything. Even worse, if I switch the layout using Alt-Shift, the plugin displays "(null)". There are no related error messages in /var/log/messages. Looks like the plugin is not aware that there is an additional layout to take care of. Due to the way portupgrade works I can't tell whether it is an XFCE 4.4.0 vs. 4.4.2 issue or an xorg 6.9 vs. 7.3 issue. Any ideas? regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka at cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de From sofar at foo-projects.org Tue Mar 18 18:24:50 2008 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:24:50 -0700 Subject: gsoc results In-Reply-To: <47DF04DC.1060206@cornell.edu> References: <47DF04DC.1060206@cornell.edu> Message-ID: <47DFFAE2.7030104@foo-projects.org> Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > Hey guys, > > As some of you probably already noticed, we did not get accepted as a > mentoring org for GSoC this year. Ah well. I'll see about asking why > we didn't get accepted. > > There's always next year if anyone has the motivation and time to apply > for us. for anyone who is interested in still trying to get anything done for Xfce - I can try again this year to work with my X.org friends to see if we can use their gsoc acceptance for Xfce. we did this last year and the X.org people I know are more than happy to help us out again this year. I'm not sure how this will work but it's a possibility that we can probably coordinate. Auke From sergey.manucharian at rmico.com Tue Mar 18 19:52:01 2008 From: sergey.manucharian at rmico.com (Sergey Manucharian) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:52:01 -0600 Subject: keyboard layout switcher stopped working In-Reply-To: <18399.63176.204984.929649@yeti.mininet> References: <18399.63176.204984.929649@yeti.mininet> Message-ID: <20080318125201.71e6e5ae@rmico.com> On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:07:20 +0100 "Markus Hoenicka" wrote: > Hi all, > > I've upgraded a FreeBSD box using the portupgrade tool. This tool > takes care of all dependencies and updates all installed packages as > needed. As a result, I've upgraded all XFCE packages from 4.4.0 to > 4.4.2, and the X Window system from 6.9 to 7.3. > > I can still switch the keyboard layout with a key combo which I've set > in /etc/X11/xorg.conf like this: > > Option "XkbLayout" "us,de" > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" > > However, the XFCE keyboard layout switcher plugin is no longer > working. It just displays the flag or text of the default layout (US), > but clicking does not alter anything. Even worse, if I switch the > layout using Alt-Shift, the plugin displays "(null)". There are no > related error messages in /var/log/messages. Looks like the plugin is > not aware that there is an additional layout to take care of. > > Due to the way portupgrade works I can't tell whether it is an XFCE > 4.4.0 vs. 4.4.2 issue or an xorg 6.9 vs. 7.3 issue. Any ideas? > > regards, > Markus > This issue has been discussed 3 month ago. Right now I use the workaround suggested. > From: "????? ???????" > To: "XFCE general discussion list" > Subject: Re: weird behavior of xkb plugin > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:12:03 +0300 > Reply-To: XFCE general discussion list > Sender: xfce-bounces at xfce.org > > Yea, looks like same problem have all peoples who use more than one > layouts... http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8595 > As temporary fixing, try to add > setxkbmap "us,ru,am" > in ~/.profile and relogin. > > On Dec 21, 2007 9:03 PM, Sergey Manucharian > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Yesterday I've finally upgraded my xfce from 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 along > > with overall system update (xorg server is 1.4.0.90 now). Xkb > > keyboard layout switcher plugin works now very strangely. > > > > I have 3 layouts in the xorg.conf file: "us,ru,am". When xfce is > > started up, the first (us) layout is shown properly, but 2 others > > do not show up at all. When I change the layout by the keyboard key > > (mapped by xmodmap), the xkb-plugin shows "(null)", but the actual > > layout is changed to the proper one. > > > > If I remove the plugin from the panel and add it again, everything > > becomes working properly until I restart xfce... > > > > Any ideas? Maybe kind of "race conditions" between xorg and xfce? > > Do someone is experiencing the same problem? > > > > Thanks, > > Sergey > > _______________________________________________ From markus.hoenicka at mhoenicka.de Tue Mar 18 21:40:16 2008 From: markus.hoenicka at mhoenicka.de (Markus Hoenicka) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:40:16 +0100 Subject: keyboard layout switcher stopped working In-Reply-To: <20080318125201.71e6e5ae@rmico.com> References: <18399.63176.204984.929649@yeti.mininet> <20080318125201.71e6e5ae@rmico.com> Message-ID: <18400.10416.367842.927777@yeti.mininet> Sergey Manucharian writes: > > As temporary fixing, try to add > > setxkbmap "us,ru,am" > > in ~/.profile and relogin. > > Thanks a lot for the pointer. The workaround basically does the trick, except that I do not use a graphical login, so I had to create and modify a copy of xinitrc to run setxkbmap as soon as the X server is up. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka at cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de From jonathan.hepburn at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 00:16:15 2008 From: jonathan.hepburn at gmail.com (Jonathan Hepburn) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:16:15 +1000 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Mark Trompell wrote: > Hi all, > I'm proud to announce, the release of whaawmp media player. > It's written using pygtk and pygst. > You can find it here: http://home.gna.org/whaawmp/ > Give it a try. > Thanks to Jeff (ThePizzaKing), who does almost all work on it. > > Mark Looks very nice Mark, and I totally agree with not wanting to install Gnome dependencies for totem (I wouldn't use gstreamer at all, if it wasn't used as a backend for half a million music library players), with one caveat: >From the SVN version I get: $ error: option --prefix not recognized README says --prefix is supported. Slainte, Jonathan From mark at foresightlinux.org Wed Mar 19 07:53:16 2008 From: mark at foresightlinux.org (Mark Trompell) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:53:16 +0100 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/19/08, Jonathan Hepburn wrote: > >From the SVN version I get: > > $ error: option --prefix not recognized > > README says --prefix is supported. did you try './make.py install --prefix='? works fine for me. > Slainte, > > Jonathan Mark From polytan at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 08:39:01 2008 From: polytan at gmail.com (polytan) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:39:01 +0100 Subject: gedit appears in all desktops In-Reply-To: References: <851181205841485@webmail54.yandex.ru> <741f8c060803180523l6d10b4a4r26b1a37bd140b1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <741f8c060803190039q83ca08dl34012f42cd3a047e@mail.gmail.com> I like tabs, coloration, tree explorer. If mousepad can do that, I will use it more than I currently do (edit one file, create a memo on my hdd not using the memo plugin). Amicalement, Polytan 2008/3/18, samuel : > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, polytan wrote: > > I have the same pb when I run gedit from root (when editing config > files, > > for example). > > > > The "solution" is ctrl+F10, but when you start gedit again, you have to > do > > it again... > > > error... the *SOLUTION* is mousepad? > > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > -- -=( Polytan )=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080319/b2333b90/attachment.html From josu.lazkano at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 11:09:35 2008 From: josu.lazkano at gmail.com (Josu Lazkano) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:09:35 +0100 Subject: Google Calendar on Orage Message-ID: <3907abe60803190309p341ff9c4x60ec524049338144@mail.gmail.com> Hello everybody, I am new on XFCE. I want to know if there is a way to export Google Calendar (ICAL) to Orage. I have try with Evolution and it works fine. Thank you. Josu Lazkano. From kmoffat at drizzle.com Wed Mar 19 11:21:02 2008 From: kmoffat at drizzle.com (Ken Moffat) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:21:02 -0700 Subject: Google Calendar on Orage In-Reply-To: <3907abe60803190309p341ff9c4x60ec524049338144@mail.gmail.com> References: <3907abe60803190309p341ff9c4x60ec524049338144@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E0E90E.7030208@drizzle.com> Josu Lazkano wrote: > Hello everybody, I am new on XFCE. > > I want to know if there is a way to export Google Calendar (ICAL) to Orage. > > I have try with Evolution and it works fine. > > Thank you. > > Josu Lazkano. > > how do you do it with evolution? thanks, ken From kautto.juha at kolumbus.fi Wed Mar 19 11:31:58 2008 From: kautto.juha at kolumbus.fi (juha) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:31:58 +0200 Subject: Google Calendar on Orage In-Reply-To: <3907abe60803190309p341ff9c4x60ec524049338144@mail.gmail.com> References: <3907abe60803190309p341ff9c4x60ec524049338144@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E0EB9E.1080103@kolumbus.fi> Josu Lazkano kirjoitti: > Hello everybody, I am new on XFCE. > > I want to know if there is a way to export Google Calendar (ICAL) to Orage. > > I have try with Evolution and it works fine. > > Thank you. > > Josu Lazkano. > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > http://knowledgegeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/my-orage-synchronisation-bodge-up-didnt.html may work. I have not tried since I have not google calendar. The key is that you should somehow download your google calendar into your machine and then add that file as foreign file into orage. Orage has no special support or export for google, but files should be compatible if you manage to get data from google into your local disk. File bugs if you face errors. /Juha From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 11:51:42 2008 From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:51:42 +0100 Subject: gedit appears in all desktops In-Reply-To: <741f8c060803190039q83ca08dl34012f42cd3a047e@mail.gmail.com> References: <851181205841485@webmail54.yandex.ru> <741f8c060803180523l6d10b4a4r26b1a37bd140b1f@mail.gmail.com> <741f8c060803190039q83ca08dl34012f42cd3a047e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: then i suggest you to look into the options of gedit cause this sure ain't a Xfce problem On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:39 AM, polytan wrote: > I like tabs, coloration, tree explorer. > > If mousepad can do that, I will use it more than I currently do (edit one > file, create a memo on my hdd not using the memo plugin). > > Amicalement, > > Polytan > > 2008/3/18, samuel : > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, polytan wrote: > > > I have the same pb when I run gedit from root (when editing config > files, > > > for example). > > > > > > The "solution" is ctrl+F10, but when you start gedit again, you have to > do > > > it again... > > > > > > error... the *SOLUTION* is mousepad? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Xfce mailing list > > Xfce at xfce.org > > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > > http://www.xfce.org > > > > > > -- > > -=( Polytan )=- > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > From corsac at debian.org Wed Mar 19 12:37:42 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:37:42 +0100 Subject: Google Calendar on Orage In-Reply-To: <47E0EB9E.1080103@kolumbus.fi> References: <3907abe60803190309p341ff9c4x60ec524049338144@mail.gmail.com> <47E0EB9E.1080103@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <20080319113742.GB7007@molly.corsac.net> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:31:58AM +0000, juha wrote: > The key is that you should somehow download your google calendar into > your machine and then add that file as foreign file into orage. Maybe a feature request would be to integrate some kind of network client to download automatically those calendars. But maybe this feature will have to wait for a vfs supporting network URIs? Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis From scott.trafford at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 22:22:01 2008 From: scott.trafford at gmail.com (Scott Trafford) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:22:01 -0400 Subject: Mouse configuration file to disable right-click Message-ID: I have searched for 2 days to try and get this working. No luck. Does XFCE use xorg.conf for its mouse configuration? I am trying to create a kiosk and disable the mouse right-click. I am running in kiosk mode, but you can still right-click on a desktop Launcher (which I need in case the program I am running is closed by a kiosk user) and get to just about everything. I have tried to use the following in xorg.conf without success: Section "InputDevice" ... Option "Buttons" "1" ... EndSection Does anyone know how to disable right-click in xfce? Or any other/better solutions? Thanks, Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080319/d8923a70/attachment.html From corsac at debian.org Wed Mar 19 22:35:54 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:35:54 +0100 Subject: Mouse configuration file to disable right-click In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1205962554.13818.0.camel@hidalgo> On mer, 2008-03-19 at 17:22 -0400, Scott Trafford wrote: > Does anyone know how to disable right-click in xfce? Or any > other/better solutions? Buy a mac? j/k :) -- Yves-Alexis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080319/bdbe9e08/attachment.html From ambrose.li at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 23:20:44 2008 From: ambrose.li at gmail.com (Ambrose Li) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:20:44 -0400 Subject: Mouse configuration file to disable right-click In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 19/03/2008, Scott Trafford wrote: > I have searched for 2 days to try and get this working. No luck. > > Does XFCE use xorg.conf for its mouse configuration? I am trying to create > a kiosk and disable the mouse right-click.[stuff deleted] > > I have tried to use the following in xorg.conf without success: If nothing works you could always use xmodmap. Just map button 2 to button 1 and no one can right click any more. -- cheers, -ambrose The 'net used to be run by smart people; now many sites are run by idiots. So SAD. From scott.trafford at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 23:24:50 2008 From: scott.trafford at gmail.com (Scott Trafford) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:24:50 -0400 Subject: Mouse configuration file to disable right-click In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well that sounds more like it. How would I do that? Something like: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 1 1" ?? -Scott On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Ambrose Li wrote: > On 19/03/2008, Scott Trafford wrote: > > I have searched for 2 days to try and get this working. No luck. > > > > Does XFCE use xorg.conf for its mouse configuration? I am trying to > create > > a kiosk and disable the mouse right-click.[stuff deleted] > > > > I have tried to use the following in xorg.conf without success: > > If nothing works you could always use xmodmap. Just map button 2 to > button 1 and no one can right click any more. > -- > cheers, > -ambrose > > The 'net used to be run by smart people; now many sites are run by > idiots. So SAD. > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080319/9717b2de/attachment.html From ambrose.li at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 23:40:22 2008 From: ambrose.li at gmail.com (Ambrose Li) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:40:22 -0400 Subject: Mouse configuration file to disable right-click In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 19/03/2008, Scott Trafford wrote: > Well that sounds more like it. > > How would I do that? Something like: > > xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 1 1" ?? Hmm. Apparently the X server won't let me map everything to the same button. Bummer... But something like "pointer = 1 5 6" or "pointer = 1 5 6 7 8" seems to work (depending on how many buttons your server thinks you have). -- cheers, -ambrose The 'net used to be run by smart people; now many sites are run by idiots. So SAD... (Sites that does spam filtering on mails sent to the abuse contact need to be cut off the net...) From jonathan.hepburn at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 23:50:41 2008 From: jonathan.hepburn at gmail.com (Jonathan Hepburn) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:50:41 +1000 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Mark Trompell wrote: > On 3/19/08, Jonathan Hepburn wrote: > > > >From the SVN version I get: > > > > $ error: option --prefix not recognized > > > > README says --prefix is supported. > > did you try './make.py install --prefix='? > works fine for me. Hmmm, interesting. './make.py install --prefix=' works, but './make.py --prefix= install' doesn't. It also really needs an uninstall option. I get around this by using stow, which is why I use --prefix on everything built from source. Slainte, Jonathan From rjdohnert at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 05:10:11 2008 From: rjdohnert at gmail.com (Roberto J. Dohnert) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:10:11 -0400 Subject: Mouse configuration file to disable right-click In-Reply-To: <20080319224100.61e06593.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> References: <1205962554.13818.0.camel@hidalgo> <20080319224100.61e06593.enrico.troeger@uvena.de> Message-ID: <47E1E3A3.8000100@gmail.com> Enrico Tr?ger wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:35:54 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez > wrote: > > >> On mer, 2008-03-19 at 17:22 -0400, Scott Trafford wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know how to disable right-click in xfce? Or any >>> other/better solutions? >>> >> Buy a mac? j/k :) >> > > Or remove the sensor below the right button inside the mouse ;-). > > > Regards, > Enrico > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org Or buy an Apple Pro Mouse from eBay, they go on the cheap nowadays. One can be had for a few bucks. From mark at foresightlinux.org Thu Mar 20 08:09:59 2008 From: mark at foresightlinux.org (Mark Trompell) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:09:59 +0100 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It also really needs an uninstall option. I get around this by using > stow, which is why I use --prefix on everything built from source. I never missed it because I never installed it. I use the package I made for "my" distribution or just run ./whaawmp.sh for testing. > Slainte, > Jonathan Mark From scott.trafford at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 14:27:52 2008 From: scott.trafford at gmail.com (Scott Trafford) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:27:52 -0400 Subject: Mouse configuration file to disable right-click In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ambrose Awesome! I had to put in 9 buttons worth (not sure why, since it is a simple 3-button mouse - maybe if I put 'Options buttons 3' in xorg.conf) but it works beautifully. For anyone else searching this thread, this is the command I used: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12" (since I got an error that my integer range was bad when trying "1 5 6" so if it thinks it had 9 buttons, you have to give values for all 9) Now I just need to get rid of that pesky right-click key on the keyboard. Thanks for all the posts (well the helpful ones at least). -Scott On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Ambrose Li wrote: > On 19/03/2008, Scott Trafford wrote: > > Well that sounds more like it. > > > > How would I do that? Something like: > > > > xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 1 1" ?? > > Hmm. Apparently the X server won't let me map everything to the same > button. > Bummer... > > But something like "pointer = 1 5 6" or "pointer = 1 5 6 7 8" seems to > work > (depending on how many buttons your server thinks you have). > -- > cheers, > -ambrose > > The 'net used to be run by smart people; now many sites are run by > idiots. So SAD... (Sites that does spam filtering on mails sent to the > abuse contact need to be cut off the net...) > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Liviu From prusnak at suse.cz Fri Mar 21 11:19:49 2008 From: prusnak at suse.cz (Pavol Rusnak) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:19:49 +0100 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: <68b1e2610803201058s66ce05a8v65480e42bcb21a3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <68b1e2610803201058s66ce05a8v65480e42bcb21a3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E38BC5.9020000@suse.cz> Liviu Andronic wrote: > Sorry for the Off-Topic question: does anyone know of any Gentoo > ebuilds for whaawmp? I could not find any on the Internet. > Liviu If you cannot find any in Gentoo Bugzilla (http://bugs.gentoo.org/) or in Gentoo Forums (http://forums.gentoo.org/) I doubt there are any available. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz From greg.sieranski at quoininc.com Fri Mar 21 14:31:10 2008 From: greg.sieranski at quoininc.com (Sieranski, Greg) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:31:10 -0400 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif Message-ID: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> I am trying to build the current release of ristretto but am having some difficulties. When I run .configure --prefix=/home/xxx/.... I get the following message: checking for libexif >= 0.6.0... not found *** The required package libexif was not found on your system. *** Please install libexif (atleast version 0.6.0) or adjust *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that *** pkg-config is able to find it. libexif is located under /usr/lib64/libexif.so.12.2.0. So I added: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib64/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH" but I am still getting the message saying it can not find libexif. Any Ideas on what I am doing wrong? Thank, Greg Sieranski From corsac at debian.org Fri Mar 21 14:57:03 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:57:03 +0100 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> Message-ID: <20080321135702.GA31370@molly.corsac.net> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 01:31:10PM +0000, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > I am trying to build the current release of ristretto but am having some > difficulties. When I run .configure --prefix=/home/xxx/.... I get the > following message: > > checking for libexif >= 0.6.0... not found > *** The required package libexif was not found on your system. > *** Please install libexif (atleast version 0.6.0) or adjust > *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you > *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that > *** pkg-config is able to find it. > > libexif is located under /usr/lib64/libexif.so.12.2.0. > So I added: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib64/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH" > > but I am still getting the message saying it can not find libexif. > > Any Ideas on what I am doing wrong? You need the development packages. -- Yves-Alexis From ananasik at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 14:57:58 2008 From: ananasik at gmail.com (Ananas) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:57:58 +0200 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> Message-ID: it is a bug in libexif. just add -I${includedir}/libexif to Cflags field in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libexif.pc 2008/3/21, Sieranski, Greg : > I am trying to build the current release of ristretto but am having some > difficulties. When I run .configure --prefix=/home/xxx/.... I get the > following message: > > checking for libexif >= 0.6.0... not found > *** The required package libexif was not found on your system. > *** Please install libexif (atleast version 0.6.0) or adjust > *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you > *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that > *** pkg-config is able to find it. > > libexif is located under /usr/lib64/libexif.so.12.2.0. > So I added: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib64/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH" > > but I am still getting the message saying it can not find libexif. > > Any Ideas on what I am doing wrong? > > Thank, > > Greg Sieranski > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > -- wbr, Victor "Ananas" Ananjevsky From greg.sieranski at quoininc.com Fri Mar 21 15:20:37 2008 From: greg.sieranski at quoininc.com (Sieranski, Greg) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:20:37 -0400 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> Message-ID: <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> Ananas wrote: > it is a bug in libexif. just add -I${includedir}/libexif to Cflags > field in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libexif.pc > > 2008/3/21, Sieranski, Greg : > >> I am trying to build the current release of ristretto but am having some >> difficulties. When I run .configure --prefix=/home/xxx/.... I get the >> following message: >> >> checking for libexif >= 0.6.0... not found >> *** The required package libexif was not found on your system. >> *** Please install libexif (atleast version 0.6.0) or adjust >> *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you >> *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that >> *** pkg-config is able to find it. >> >> libexif is located under /usr/lib64/libexif.so.12.2.0. >> So I added: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib64/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH" >> >> but I am still getting the message saying it can not find libexif. >> >> Any Ideas on what I am doing wrong? >> >> Thank, >> >> Greg Sieranski >> _______________________________________________ >> Xfce mailing list >> Xfce at xfce.org >> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce >> http://www.xfce.org >> >> > > > So I went to add -I${includedir}/libexif to Cflags in my /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/libexif.pc file but there is no libexif.pc file? I did a find for "libexif" and it shows its installed in /usr/lib64/libexif.so.12.2.0 Any thoughts on where I should go from here? Thanks, Greg Sieranski From mmassonnet at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 15:47:46 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:47:46 +0100 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> Message-ID: <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> cf. Yves-Alexis' anwser, did you install the development package? mike From greg.sieranski at quoininc.com Fri Mar 21 16:09:25 2008 From: greg.sieranski at quoininc.com (Sieranski, Greg) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:09:25 -0400 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> Message-ID: <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> Mike Massonnet wrote: > cf. Yves-Alexis' anwser, did you install the development package? > > mike > _______________________________________________ > Xfce mailing list > Xfce at xfce.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > http://www.xfce.org > xfce4-dev-tools.noarch 4.4.0-1.fc7 installed Just this one right? From landronimirc at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 16:24:08 2008 From: landronimirc at gmail.com (Liviu Andronic) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:24:08 +0100 Subject: ANN: whaawmp 0.2.8 released In-Reply-To: <47E38BC5.9020000@suse.cz> References: <68b1e2610803201058s66ce05a8v65480e42bcb21a3b@mail.gmail.com> <47E38BC5.9020000@suse.cz> Message-ID: <68b1e2610803210824i3588bba8qb396b4f5be6a5042@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Pavol Rusnak wrote: > If you cannot find any in Gentoo Bugzilla (http://bugs.gentoo.org/) or > in Gentoo Forums (http://forums.gentoo.org/) I doubt there are any > available. Well, I did find the one for ktsuss [1] in a place well different than the ones you mentioned [2], although I much agree that these are the obvious places. Thanks for trying to help, Liviu [1] http://developer.berlios.de/projects/ktsuss/ [2] http://kenscodepit.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/gentoo-overlay/x11-libs/ktsuss/ From damailings at mcbf.net Fri Mar 21 16:26:20 2008 From: damailings at mcbf.net (David Mohr) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:26:20 -0600 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> Message-ID: <472d4b250803210826hd4c6f0btf70a356df4bcc6a8@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > > Mike Massonnet wrote: > > cf. Yves-Alexis' anwser, did you install the development package? > > > > mike > > _______________________________________________ > > Xfce mailing list > > Xfce at xfce.org > > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > > http://www.xfce.org > > > xfce4-dev-tools.noarch 4.4.0-1.fc7 installed > > Just this one right? No, you probably need libexif-dev or libexif-devel or what your distribution calls it. ~David From alexander.toresson at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 16:26:41 2008 From: alexander.toresson at gmail.com (Alexander Toresson) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:26:41 +0100 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > > Mike Massonnet wrote: > > cf. Yves-Alexis' anwser, did you install the development package? > > > > mike > > _______________________________________________ > > Xfce mailing list > > Xfce at xfce.org > > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > > http://www.xfce.org > > > xfce4-dev-tools.noarch 4.4.0-1.fc7 installed > > Just this one right? > Not for xfce, for libexif. From corsac at debian.org Fri Mar 21 16:39:21 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:39:21 +0100 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> Message-ID: <20080321153921.GD31370@molly.corsac.net> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 03:09:25PM +0000, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > Mike Massonnet wrote: > > cf. Yves-Alexis' anwser, did you install the development package? > xfce4-dev-tools.noarch 4.4.0-1.fc7 installed > > Just this one right? The exif one -- Yves-Alexis From greg.sieranski at quoininc.com Fri Mar 21 16:47:53 2008 From: greg.sieranski at quoininc.com (Sieranski, Greg) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:47:53 -0400 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <20080321153921.GD31370@molly.corsac.net> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> <20080321153921.GD31370@molly.corsac.net> Message-ID: <47E3D8A9.5090502@quoininc.com> Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 03:09:25PM +0000, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > >> Mike Massonnet wrote: >> >>> cf. Yves-Alexis' anwser, did you install the development package? >>> >> xfce4-dev-tools.noarch 4.4.0-1.fc7 installed >> >> Just this one right? >> > > The exif one > Ok, so I got libexif-devel and added the -I${includedir}/libexif to Cflags field in libexif.pc Now, I am getting: checking for thunar-vfs-1 >= 0.4.0... not found *** The required package thunar-vfs-1 was not found on your system. *** Please install thunar-vfs-1 (atleast version 0.4.0) or adjust *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that *** pkg-config is able to find it. $ sudo yum install thunar-vfs-devel Setting up Install Process I looked for a thunar-vfs-devel package but there was not one. I am running F8 64 bit. Do I need the gnome-vfs-devel package for this? Thanks, Greg Sieranski From corsac at debian.org Fri Mar 21 18:01:22 2008 From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:01:22 +0100 Subject: Installing Ristretto can't find libexif In-Reply-To: <47E3D8A9.5090502@quoininc.com> References: <47E3B89E.1000307@quoininc.com> <47E3C435.3020302@quoininc.com> <20080321144746.GA17541@failure.del> <47E3CFA5.8040108@quoininc.com> <20080321153921.GD31370@molly.corsac.net> <47E3D8A9.5090502@quoininc.com> Message-ID: <20080321170122.GB11182@molly.corsac.net> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 03:47:53PM +0000, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > checking for thunar-vfs-1 >= 0.4.0... not found > *** The required package thunar-vfs-1 was not found on your system. > *** Please install thunar-vfs-1 (atleast version 0.4.0) or adjust > *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you > *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that > *** pkg-config is able to find it. > $ sudo yum install thunar-vfs-devel > Setting up Install Process > > > I looked for a thunar-vfs-devel package but there was not one. I am running > F8 64 bit. Do I need the gnome-vfs-devel package for this? No, just install thunar-dev package, or whatever it's called for your distro. You may want to ask the packagers too. -- Yves-Alexis From michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de Sun Mar 23 12:17:42 2008 From: michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de (Michael Schmarck) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:17:42 +0100 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? Message-ID: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> Hello. I installed Xfce 4.4.2 on a Gentoo Linux ~x86 system (I installed xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.2 from the Portage tree). I then started Xfce after setting /usr/bin/startxfce in ~/.xinitrc and then doing a startx. xfce started up just fine and seems to work. But, compared to Gnome, it feels pretty "slow" or sluggish. For example when I change from one desktop to another one, it's by far not as smooth as it is with Gnome or fluxbox. I don't have many (X) applications running when I tried that - just one Terminal. How can I speed up Xfce or is it just a fact that Xfce is slow? Thanks a lot, Michael PS: No, that's *NOT* a flame bait! I truly would like to use Xfce as it's not as memory hungry as Gnome. But this sluggishness makes me not want to use Xfce - if that could be changed, I'd be happy! -- -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/?mc=sv_ext_mf at gmx From stephan at xfce.org Sun Mar 23 12:32:11 2008 From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:32:11 +0100 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> Message-ID: <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Michael Schmarck wrote: > Hello. > > I installed Xfce 4.4.2 on a Gentoo Linux ~x86 system (I installed > xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.2 from the Portage tree). I then started Xfce > after setting /usr/bin/startxfce in ~/.xinitrc and then doing a > startx. xfce started up just fine and seems to work. > > But, compared to Gnome, it feels pretty "slow" or sluggish. For > example when I change from one desktop to another one, it's by > far not as smooth as it is with Gnome or fluxbox. I don't have > many (X) applications running when I tried that - just one > Terminal. > > How can I speed up Xfce or is it just a fact that Xfce is slow? > When using Terminal in combination with composite, then indeed it can be slow. This can be improved with exporting the following before starting X (or just terminal, i dunno about that) XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 Another possibility is to disable composite. The true cause of this issue seems to be the nvidia drivers. But I am not sure about that one (hear-say). Regards, Stephan From stephan at xfce.org Sun Mar 23 13:11:44 2008 From: stephan at xfce.org (stephan@xfce.org) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: ANN: ristretto version 0.0.18 released Message-ID: <20080323121144.64AB4F29D8@mocha.foo-projects.org> I am pleased to announce version 0.0.18 of the ristretto image viewer. It has a lot of bugfixes, Have fun :-) - Stephan ChangeLog: 2008-03-23: Release 0.0.18 * src/picture_viewer.c: - Improved zoom-box - Added rudimentary drag-n-drop support for opening images * src/navigator.c, src/main.c, src/main_window.c, src/picture_viewer.c: - Removed duplicate code for opening files and folders, moved this to the navigator (Bug #3866) * src/main.c: - Open files and folders when the main-loop is running, this way the window is already usable before the images are being opened. * src/main_window.c: - Add configuration option to toggle the folowing feature: - Prevent images to be scaled beyond 100% when maximizing the window - Resize images to fit to the window when restoring the window from maximize state. * src/main.c, src/main_window.c, src/navigator.c: - Prevent GUI freezes when opening a folder with a lot of files in them. - Fix segfaults when closing ristretto while it is opening a folder. * src/thumbnail_bar.c, src/thumbnail.c: - Restore of auto-center when clicking on a thumbnail. * src/main.c, src/main_window.c: - The Statusbar displays some feedback when opening files. Download this release: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/ristretto/ristretto-0.0.18.tar.gz Changelog: http://goodies.xfce.org/releases/ristretto/ChangeLog Project website: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/ristretto/ From michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de Sun Mar 23 13:13:58 2008 From: michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de (Michael Schmarck) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:13:58 +0100 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello! On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Arts wrote: > When using Terminal in combination with composite, then indeed it can be slow. I'm not using composite - or is that a default of Xfce? And it's also not about Terminal. Eg. it also *seems* to be quite slow when I switch tabs in Firefox. > Another possibility is to disable composite. I did not enable it, so I doubt that it is enabled. How do I check? > The true cause of this issue seems to be the nvidia drivers. I don't have an nvidia card. I've got a UniChrome card. Using either the openchrome drivers or the via drviers. Michael From mmassonnet at gmail.com Sun Mar 23 13:21:00 2008 From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:21:00 +0100 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080323122100.GA19013@failure.del> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:32:11PM +0100, Stephan Arts wrote: > Another possibility is to disable composite. > > The true cause of this issue seems to be the nvidia drivers. But I am > not sure about that one (hear-say). Xorg 7.3+ enables the Composite extension by default. You can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "Disable" it explicitly. Have a look at http://wiki.xfce.org/faq#windows > Regards, > > Stephan mike From landronimirc at gmail.com Sun Mar 23 13:26:44 2008 From: landronimirc at gmail.com (Liviu Andronic) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:26:44 +0100 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <68b1e2610803230526x60bec8f3m2d985ab0dddb1787@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Michael Schmarck wrote: > > Another possibility is to disable composite. > > I did not enable it, so I doubt that it is enabled. How do I check? > Check Settings > Window Manager Tweaks to see whether Xfce makes use of composite. If it does, you will notice a tab named "Compositor". Liviu From pnanda at ieee.org Sun Mar 23 13:50:27 2008 From: pnanda at ieee.org (Pariksheet Nanda) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:50:27 -0400 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <229b7e970803230550m7ff502ecr47944ac3d22be12@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Michael Schmarck < michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de> wrote: > Hello! > > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Arts wrote: > > > When using Terminal in combination with composite, then indeed it can be slow. > > I'm not using composite - or is that a default of Xfce? And it's also not > about Terminal. Eg. it also *seems* to be quite slow when I switch > tabs in Firefox. > I noticed a significant speed up with Firefox window / tab loading and switching after upgrading cairo. I'm currently using version 1.5.12 Pariksheet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/xfce/attachments/20080323/0f45479e/attachment-0001.html From michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de Sun Mar 23 15:22:47 2008 From: michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de (Michael Schmarck) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:22:47 +0100 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: <229b7e970803230550m7ff502ecr47944ac3d22be12@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> <229b7e970803230550m7ff502ecr47944ac3d22be12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello! On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Pariksheet Nanda wrote: > I noticed a significant speed up with Firefox window / tab loading and > switching after upgrading cairo. Hm - but why is Firefox not (so) slow in other X "settings"? Is it just the Xfce window manager which is causing problems here? > I'm currently using version 1.5.12 That's what I'm using as well. I'm using Gentoo Linux ~x86, which is, more or less, a different name for "bleeding edge" *g* Cheers, Michael From michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de Sun Mar 23 15:25:02 2008 From: michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de (Michael Schmarck) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:25:02 +0100 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: <20080323122100.GA19013@failure.del> References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> <20080323122100.GA19013@failure.del> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Mike Massonnet wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:32:11PM +0100, Stephan Arts wrote: > > Another possibility is to disable composite. > > > > The true cause of this issue seems to be the nvidia drivers. But I am > > not sure about that one (hear-say). > > Xorg 7.3+ enables the Composite extension by default. You can edit > /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "Disable" it explicitly. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I find: (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE So I "guess" :) that COMPOSITE indeed is turned on. Will try to dsable it (and will, before and afterwards, do "Check Settings > Window Manager Tweaks"). So, just to summarize, because of the COMPOSITE extension, changing desktops is slow. In general. Is that right? Cheers, Michael From xfce at rlworkman.net Sun Mar 23 15:39:28 2008 From: xfce at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:39:28 -0500 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E66BA0.9060208@rlworkman.net> Michael Schmarck wrote: > Hello! > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Arts wrote: > >> When using Terminal in combination with composite, then indeed it can be slow. > > I'm not using composite - or is that a default of Xfce? And it's also not > about Terminal. Eg. it also *seems* to be quite slow when I switch > tabs in Firefox. > >> Another possibility is to disable composite. > > I did not enable it, so I doubt that it is enabled. How do I check? We've run across this as well in numerous setups; it seems that the nice autodetection features in newer xorg enable composite by default if your card supports it and direct rendering. I found the easiest workaround to explicitly disable it in my xorg.conf, but the setting to the environment will also work. >> The true cause of this issue seems to be the nvidia drivers. > > I don't have an nvidia card. I've got a UniChrome card. Using either > the openchrome drivers or the via drviers. It's definitely not nvidia-specific. I've seen it on an ati card with the default xorg radeon driver, and several of our users have as well. -RW From xfce at rlworkman.net Sun Mar 23 15:40:11 2008 From: xfce at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:40:11 -0500 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: <20080323122100.GA19013@failure.del> References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> <20080323122100.GA19013@failure.del> Message-ID: <47E66BCB.409@rlworkman.net> Mike Massonnet wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:32:11PM +0100, Stephan Arts wrote: >> Another possibility is to disable composite. >> >> The true cause of this issue seems to be the nvidia drivers. But I am >> not sure about that one (hear-say). > > Xorg 7.3+ enables the Composite extension by default. You can edit > /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "Disable" it explicitly. I suppose I should read the entire thread before I reply next time :) -RW From fourdan at gmail.com Sun Mar 23 16:09:12 2008 From: fourdan at gmail.com (Olivier Fourdan) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:09:12 +0000 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> <20080323122100.GA19013@failure.del> Message-ID: <60f2b0dc0803230809tf4c63e4v81bc6e4c76c124ef@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Michael Schmarck wrote: > [...] > So I "guess" :) that COMPOSITE indeed is turned on. Will try to > dsable it (and will, before and afterwards, do "Check Settings > > Window Manager Tweaks"). > > So, just to summarize, because of the COMPOSITE extension, > changing desktops is slow. In general. Is that right? No, you might be confused between the composite extension and the compositor. Having the composite extension available does not necessarily mean that you are using a compositor. However, xfwm4 includes a compositor (whereas neither fluxbox nor metacity do (*)) so if you have the compositor extension available, xfwm4 will enable the compositor. Compositing means that rendering of windows is done in pixmaps off screen, and the display is then composed by the compositor. If you hardware is not powerful enough this may seem slow. Since all window contnt is done off screen, there is another level of indirection that mey slow down all content updates (including of course FF) The best way to disable compositing all together is to disable the compositor extension in xorg.conf Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection HTH, Cheers, Olivier. From fourdan at gmail.com Sun Mar 23 16:12:42 2008 From: fourdan at gmail.com (Olivier Fourdan) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:12:42 +0000 Subject: Xfce pretty slow? In-Reply-To: <60f2b0dc0803230809tf4c63e4v81bc6e4c76c124ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080323111742.249890@gmx.net> <74b8614e0803230432w1374ea26t948468a745ec6b00@mail.gmail.com> <20080323122100.GA19013@failure.del> <60f2b0dc0803230809tf4c63e4v81bc6e4c76c124ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <60f2b0dc0803230812y3954df3cr2e07e32d0ae9f52d@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Olivier Fourdan wrote: > However, xfwm4 includes a compositor (whereas neither fluxbox nor > metacity do (*)) so if you have the compositor extension available, > xfwm4 will enable the compositor. [*] Actually, this is not entirely true, since metacity now includes a compositor based on xfwm4 code: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/metacity/trunk/src/core/compositor.c?revision=3655&view=markup Cheers, Olivier. From michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de Sun Mar 23 16:47:22 2008 From: michael.schmarck at habmalnefrage.de (Michael Schmarck) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Xfce pretty slow? 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