From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Tue Jul  1 03:42:43 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:42:43 -0700
Subject: new xfce/goodies git-svn repos
Message-ID: <48698B93.4000807@cornell.edu>

Hi all,

Two bits of news with git-svn:

1.  I created repos for the goodies!  Yay!

2.  I rebuilt all the xfce modules so the remote branches have 'origin/' 
prefixes like normal git remote branches usually do.  So that way you 
won't get annoying messages about naming local branches the same as 
remote branches when you want to check out xfce_4_4, for example (now 
you'd do 'git-checkout --track -b xfce_4_4 origin/xfce_4_4').

Usual place:
http://mocha.xfce.org/~kelnos/git-svn/

	-brian

From pollux at xfce.org  Thu Jul  3 13:37:04 2008
From: pollux at xfce.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois?= Wauthy)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:37:04 +0200
Subject: Shut down of mocha.xfce.org on the 4th and 11th of August
Message-ID: <1215085024.7565.7.camel@indiana.infonet.fundp.ac.be>

Hi all,

Due to UPS changes and related work in the university datacenter, the
main Xfce server (mocha.xfce.org) will be shut down during the whole day
on August 4th and 11th. 

As a reminder, Mocha is mainly running Xfce-related websites (Xfce,
Goodies, Thunar, ...) and the Subversion repositories.

-- 
Jean-Fran?ois Wauthy <pollux at xfce.org>
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From landry.breuil at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 12:37:52 2008
From: landry.breuil at gmail.com (Landry Breuil)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:37:52 +0200
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27211 - xarchiver/trunk
In-Reply-To: <20080705052312.04A4EF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org>
References: <20080705052312.04A4EF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org>
Message-ID: <556095500807050337r699e38c2y6a4ba739537f9aa7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus at xfce.org> wrote:
> Author: colossus
> Date: 2008-07-05 05:23:11 +0000 (Sat, 05 Jul 2008)
> New Revision: 27211
>
> Modified:
>   xarchiver/trunk/configure.in.in
> Log:
> Made configure script to detect xdg-open in /usr/bin

And what about the others installing in !/usr ? :)
Isn't there an autoconf macro to find binaries in $PATH, maybe
AC_PATH_PROG ?

Landry

From christian at twotoasts.de  Sat Jul  5 12:56:06 2008
From: christian at twotoasts.de (Christian Dywan)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:56:06 +0200
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27211 - xarchiver/trunk
In-Reply-To: <556095500807050337r699e38c2y6a4ba739537f9aa7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080705052312.04A4EF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org>
	<556095500807050337r699e38c2y6a4ba739537f9aa7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080705125606.40fa82ea@twotoasts.de>

Am Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:37:52 +0200
schrieb "Landry Breuil" <landry.breuil at gmail.com>:

> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus at xfce.org>
> wrote:
> > Author: colossus
> > Date: 2008-07-05 05:23:11 +0000 (Sat, 05 Jul 2008)
> > New Revision: 27211
> >
> > Modified:
> >   xarchiver/trunk/configure.in.in
> > Log:
> > Made configure script to detect xdg-open in /usr/bin
> 
> And what about the others installing in !/usr ? :)
> Isn't there an autoconf macro to find binaries in $PATH, maybe
> AC_PATH_PROG ?

Even better, just use 'which'.

ciao,
    Christian

From ongardie at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 13:25:42 2008
From: ongardie at gmail.com (Diego Ongaro)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:25:42 +0100
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27211 - xarchiver/trunk
In-Reply-To: <20080705125606.40fa82ea@twotoasts.de>
References: <20080705052312.04A4EF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org>
	<556095500807050337r699e38c2y6a4ba739537f9aa7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080705125606.40fa82ea@twotoasts.de>
Message-ID: <115252780807050425v16aad933hd339557b93c3eec6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:56, Christian Dywan <christian at twotoasts.de> wrote:
> Am Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:37:52 +0200
> schrieb "Landry Breuil" <landry.breuil at gmail.com>:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus at xfce.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Made configure script to detect xdg-open in /usr/bin
>>
>> And what about the others installing in !/usr ? :)
>> Isn't there an autoconf macro to find binaries in $PATH, maybe
>> AC_PATH_PROG ?
>
> Even better, just use 'which'.

I don't see how that's "even better".

From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Sat Jul  5 13:47:25 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:47:25 +0200
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27211 - xarchiver/trunk
In-Reply-To: <115252780807050425v16aad933hd339557b93c3eec6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080705052312.04A4EF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org>
	<556095500807050337r699e38c2y6a4ba739537f9aa7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080705125606.40fa82ea@twotoasts.de>
	<115252780807050425v16aad933hd339557b93c3eec6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080705134725.b2cb06f4.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:25:42 +0100, "Diego Ongaro" <ongardie at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:56, Christian Dywan
> <christian at twotoasts.de> wrote:
> > Am Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:37:52 +0200
> > schrieb "Landry Breuil" <landry.breuil at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Giuseppe Torelli
> >> <colossus at xfce.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Made configure script to detect xdg-open in /usr/bin
> >>
> >> And what about the others installing in !/usr ? :)
> >> Isn't there an autoconf macro to find binaries in $PATH, maybe
> >> AC_PATH_PROG ?
> >
> > Even better, just use 'which'.
> 
> I don't see how that's "even better".

which searches in $PATH, not only in /usr/bin.

But even even better would be to not check for this in any autoconf
script but in the program itself at runtime.


Regards,
Enrico

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From m_pfeuti at students.unibe.ch  Sat Jul  5 13:54:49 2008
From: m_pfeuti at students.unibe.ch (Michael Pfeuti)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:54:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Panel Plugin Configuration Signal
Message-ID: <405046.7485.qm@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I try to connect my dummy panel plugin to the "configuration" signal which is emitted when Properties is clicked in the menu. However, the linked method is not only called when the menu entry is clicked, but always when the plugin starts/is added to the panel.

this is rather annoying and i have no idea what i did wrong. I couldn't find anything about this on the mailing list or the documentation page.

I even went through the code of the xfce panel and still couldn't figure out why the configuration signal is emitted at the plugin start

does anyone have any idea why this happend? 

this is the whole code:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

#include <gtk/gtk.h>

#include <libxfce4panel/xfce-panel-window.h>
#include <libxfce4panel/xfce-panel-plugin.h>
#include <libxfce4panel/xfce-panel-convenience.h>

#include <libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.h>

static void config_cb (XfcePanelPlugin *plugin, gpointer user_data)
{
    xfce_panel_plugin_block_menu (plugin);
    xfce_info("config");
    xfce_panel_plugin_unblock_menu (plugin);
}

static void plugin_create(XfcePanelPlugin *plugin)
{
    GtkWidget *button = xfce_create_panel_button();

    gtk_widget_show(button);
    gtk_container_add(GTK_CONTAINER(plugin), button);
    xfce_panel_plugin_add_action_widget(plugin, button);

    xfce_panel_plugin_menu_show_configure (plugin);

    g_signal_connect (plugin, "configure-plugin",
			G_CALLBACK (config_cb), button);
}


XFCE_PANEL_PLUGIN_REGISTER_EXTERNAL(plugin_create);


regards michael


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From jannis at xfce.org  Sat Jul  5 14:27:45 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:27:45 +0200
Subject: Panel Plugin Configuration Signal
In-Reply-To: <405046.7485.qm@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <405046.7485.qm@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080705142745.392da7f5@84.200.240.9>

Hey,

Am Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:54:49 +0000 (GMT)
schrieb Michael Pfeuti <m_pfeuti at students.unibe.ch>:

> Hi,
> 
> I try to connect my dummy panel plugin to the "configuration" signal
> which is emitted when Properties is clicked in the menu. However, the
> linked method is not only called when the menu entry is clicked, but
> always when the plugin starts/is added to the panel.
> 
> this is rather annoying and i have no idea what i did wrong. I
> couldn't find anything about this on the mailing list or the
> documentation page.
> 
> I even went through the code of the xfce panel and still couldn't
> figure out why the configuration signal is emitted at the plugin start
> 
> does anyone have any idea why this happend? 

this happens for every plugin by default. I don't think there's a way
around it.

  - Jannis
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From ongardie at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 14:35:55 2008
From: ongardie at gmail.com (Diego Ongaro)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:35:55 +0100
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27211 - xarchiver/trunk
In-Reply-To: <20080705134725.b2cb06f4.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
References: <20080705052312.04A4EF29E0@mocha.foo-projects.org>
	<556095500807050337r699e38c2y6a4ba739537f9aa7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080705125606.40fa82ea@twotoasts.de>
	<115252780807050425v16aad933hd339557b93c3eec6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080705134725.b2cb06f4.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
Message-ID: <115252780807050535t4d4d1bd8l50c589371a81b131@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:47, Enrico Tr?ger <enrico.troeger at uvena.de> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:25:42 +0100, "Diego Ongaro" <ongardie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:56, Christian Dywan
>> <christian at twotoasts.de> wrote:
>> > Am Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:37:52 +0200
>> > schrieb "Landry Breuil" <landry.breuil at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Giuseppe Torelli
>> >> <colossus at xfce.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Made configure script to detect xdg-open in /usr/bin
>> >>
>> >> And what about the others installing in !/usr ? :)
>> >> Isn't there an autoconf macro to find binaries in $PATH, maybe
>> >> AC_PATH_PROG ?
>> >
>> > Even better, just use 'which'.
>>
>> I don't see how that's "even better".
>
> which searches in $PATH, not only in /usr/bin.
>
> But even even better would be to not check for this in any autoconf
> script but in the program itself at runtime.

AC_CHECK_PROG or AC_PATH_PROG also search the $PATH, see
http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/html_node/Generic-Programs.html#Generic-Programs
.

From ongardie at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 14:41:46 2008
From: ongardie at gmail.com (Diego Ongaro)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:41:46 +0100
Subject: Panel Plugin Configuration Signal
In-Reply-To: <20080705142745.392da7f5@84.200.240.9>
References: <405046.7485.qm@web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<20080705142745.392da7f5@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <115252780807050541k6865badav65f06d47e0ac5c22@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 13:27, Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Am Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:54:49 +0000 (GMT)
> schrieb Michael Pfeuti <m_pfeuti at students.unibe.ch>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I try to connect my dummy panel plugin to the "configuration" signal
>> which is emitted when Properties is clicked in the menu. However, the
>> linked method is not only called when the menu entry is clicked, but
>> always when the plugin starts/is added to the panel.
>>
>> this is rather annoying and i have no idea what i did wrong. I
>> couldn't find anything about this on the mailing list or the
>> documentation page.
>>
>> I even went through the code of the xfce panel and still couldn't
>> figure out why the configuration signal is emitted at the plugin start
>>
>> does anyone have any idea why this happend?
>
> this happens for every plugin by default. I don't think there's a way
> around it.

I guess as a user you can drag-and-drop the plugin to the panel when
you're adding it (instead of using the add button) to avoid seeing the
configuration dialog.

From m_pfeuti at students.unibe.ch  Sat Jul  5 19:24:31 2008
From: m_pfeuti at students.unibe.ch (Michael Pfeuti)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:24:31 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Panel Plugin Configuration Signal
In-Reply-To: <20080705142745.392da7f5@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <774974.20723.qm@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

first of all i'd like to thank you all for the fast responses

you made me realize i never tested what happens when i add a plugin from someone else. It turns out that the config dialog appears with all plugins first, just as you said.

so, i'll just accept this fact and continue my work :P

cheers michael




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From colossus73 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 21:58:21 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:58:21 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Xarchiver 0.5 is on the way out at last.
With this release I would like to have
full compatibility on freeBSD. Could
please anyone take care of this?

Thanks,
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 07:47:01 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:47:01 +0200
Subject: XArchiver feature request.
In-Reply-To: <14f1c8090701181719s435f9b6er2d7b7ab871d01f56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14f1c8090701181719s435f9b6er2d7b7ab871d01f56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807052247l7d2cf440x6db57967f1777880@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 3:19 AM, Alexandre Moreira
<alexandream at gmail.com> wrote:
> ... Hmmmm I just decided to take a last look on the software before
> posting, and I think that it may not be that nice to have this option
> (because of the way the application works internally) but still, I
> leave the idea so we can have a nice discussion about
> yet-another-polemic feature. What do you say ?

This action can easily be performed even
'because of the way the application works internally'.
I can issue a cp command to save the archive from the /tmp location
wherever you want.

Does it make sense to you?
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 07:53:25 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:53:25 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Xarchiver 0.5 is on the way out at last.
> With this release I would like to have
> full compatibility on freeBSD. Could
> please anyone take care of this?

No body out? Which gui do people use to handle
archives on FreeBSD?

-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From jannis at xfce.org  Sun Jul  6 11:22:20 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:22:20 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>

Am Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:53:25 +0200
schrieb "Giuseppe Torelli" <colossus73 at gmail.com>:

> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Giuseppe Torelli
> <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Xarchiver 0.5 is on the way out at last.
> > With this release I would like to have
> > full compatibility on freeBSD. Could
> > please anyone take care of this?
> 
> No body out? Which gui do people use to handle
> archives on FreeBSD?

Well, maybe ask on a FreeBSD mailinglist?

  - Jannis
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From colossus73 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 12:40:27 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:40:27 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org> wrote:
> Well, maybe ask on a FreeBSD mailinglist?

I asked here because I know some xfce developers
use FreeBSD... btw I will ask there too.

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Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From landry.breuil at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 13:20:56 2008
From: landry.breuil at gmail.com (Landry Breuil)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:20:56 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
	<c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org> wrote:
>> Well, maybe ask on a FreeBSD mailinglist?
>
> I asked here because I know some xfce developers
> use FreeBSD... btw I will ask there too.

At least svn compiles on OpenBSD (gcc 3.3.5, gtk 2.12.9) .. but some details :

window.c: In function `xa_handle_selected_rows':
window.c:1457: warning: passing arg 1 of `g_strdup_printf' makes
pointer from integer without a cast
window.c:1494: warning: passing arg 1 of `g_strdup_printf' makes
pointer from integer without a cast

This is a scary warning :)

The detection of xdg-open is still bad in configure.in.in, kill the
AC_CHECK_FILE and use AC_PATH_PROG.

And it badly segfaults when trying to opening an archive (i have gtar
installed and in path btw)


(gdb) r ~/bsdav-1.4.tar.gz
Starting program: /home/landry/src/xarchiver/src/xarchiver ~/bsdav-1.4.tar.gz

(xarchiver:8294): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_shell_parse_argv: assertion
`command_line != NULL' failed

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
free_bytes (d=0x24abed60, r=0x8687a000, ptr=0x0) at
/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:987
987	/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c: No such file or directory.
	in /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c
(gdb) bt
#0  free_bytes (d=0x24abed60, r=0x8687a000, ptr=0x0) at
/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:987
#1  0x04af1a9e in ofree (p=0xb) at /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:1199
#2  0x04af1b45 in free (ptr=0x4) at /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:1217
#3  0x00b17d38 in g_free () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.1600.0
#4  0x00b2d54c in g_strfreev () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.1600.0
#5  0x1c00ae4b in xa_spawn_async_process (archive=0x7f2c6700,
command=0x0) at archive.c:82
#6  0x1c018107 in xa_open_gzip (archive=0x7f2c6700, dummy=0x0) at gzip.c:52
#7  0x1c011133 in xa_open_archive (menuitem=0x0, data=0x87d32d40) at
window.c:367
#8  0x1c008d92 in main (argc=2, argv=0xcfbe20f4) at main.c:247

Dunno how command can be NULL here, gzip.c looks correct.

(gdb) r /usr/ports/distfiles/xfce4/xfce4-diskperf-plugin-2.2.0.tar.bz2
Starting program: /home/landry/src/xarchiver/src/xarchiver
/usr/ports/distfiles/xfce4/xfce4-diskperf-plugin-2.2.0.tar.bz2

(xarchiver:16874): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_shell_parse_argv: assertion
`command_line != NULL' failed

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
free_bytes (d=0x2c529d60, r=0x847defd0, ptr=0x0) at
/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:987
987	/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c: No such file or directory.
	in /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c
(gdb) bt
#0  free_bytes (d=0x2c529d60, r=0x847defd0, ptr=0x0) at
/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:987
#1  0x0c55ca9e in ofree (p=0xa) at /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:1199
#2  0x0c55ccb7 in orealloc (p=0x7ca47380, newsz=72) at
/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:1290
#3  0x0c55ceb1 in realloc (ptr=0x7ca47380, size=72) at
/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c:1317
#4  0x0f271cd3 in g_realloc () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.1600.0
#5  0x0fd2cd80 in g_cclosure_marshal_STRING__OBJECT_POINTER () from
/usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.1600.0
#6  0x0fd2c71d in g_cclosure_marshal_STRING__OBJECT_POINTER () from
/usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.1600.0
#7  0x0fd25eae in g_param_spec_override () from
/usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.1600.0
#8  0x0fd28ecd in g_signal_connect_data () from
/usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.1600.0
#9  0x08e7e8db in gtk_tree_view_set_model () from
/usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.1200.9
#10 0x1c012c7a in xa_create_liststore (archive=0x88063500,
columns_names=0xcfbe3810) at window.c:1133
#11 0x1c017eb3 in xa_open_tar_compressed_file (archive=0x88063500) at
bzip2.c:170
#12 0x1c0179be in xa_open_bzip2_lzma (archive=0x88063500, dummy=0x0)
at bzip2.c:55
#13 0x1c011146 in xa_open_archive (menuitem=0x0, data=0x7ca47900) at
window.c:371
#14 0x1c008d92 in main (argc=2, argv=0xcfbe3a60) at main.c:247

Hope you can fix this, i'm willing to test patches if needed.

Landry

From miklosovic at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 22:12:29 2008
From: miklosovic at gmail.com (Stefan Miklosovic)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:12:29 +0200
Subject: problems with compilation of xfconf
Message-ID: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>

hi

i want to compile xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27216, but this error appears to me
after ./configure

config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating common/Makefile
config.status: creating docs/Makefile
config.status: creating docs/reference/Makefile
config.status: creating docs/reference/version.xml
config.status: creating docs/spec/Makefile
config.status: error: cannot find input file: docs/xfsettingsd/Makefile.in

thank you in advance

have a nice day
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From stephan at xfce.org  Sun Jul  6 22:57:06 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:57:06 +0200
Subject: problems with compilation of xfconf
In-Reply-To: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0807061357u75f6f82i2aa569bea53cf951@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Stefan Miklosovic <miklosovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi
>
> i want to compile xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27216, but this error appears to me
> after ./configure
>
> config.status: creating Makefile
> config.status: creating common/Makefile
> config.status: creating docs/Makefile
> config.status: creating docs/reference/Makefile
> config.status: creating docs/reference/version.xml
> config.status: creating docs/spec/Makefile
> config.status: error: cannot find input file: docs/xfsettingsd/Makefile.in

Did you run autogen.sh?

-
Stephan

From miklosovic at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 07:14:17 2008
From: miklosovic at gmail.com (Stefan Miklosovic)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:14:17 +0200
Subject: problems with compilation of xfconf
In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0807061357u75f6f82i2aa569bea53cf951@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>
	<74b8614e0807061357u75f6f82i2aa569bea53cf951@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ac5186d30807062214n5865fbd0nb5aaae3710505aa2@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/6 Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org>:

> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Stefan Miklosovic <miklosovic at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > i want to compile xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27216, but this error appears to me
> > after ./configure
> >
> > config.status: creating Makefile
> > config.status: creating common/Makefile
> > config.status: creating docs/Makefile
> > config.status: creating docs/reference/Makefile
> > config.status: creating docs/reference/version.xml
> > config.status: creating docs/spec/Makefile
> > config.status: error: cannot find input file:
> docs/xfsettingsd/Makefile.in
>
> Did you run autogen.sh?
>
> -
> Stephan <http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev>


no, in xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27216 directory, after extracting,
there is not such file (autogen.sh). I execute ./configure,
as I wrote in origin post... This is also written in INSTALL
file, which informs about installation process of this sotware.

Stefan
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From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Mon Jul  7 07:42:37 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:42:37 -0700
Subject: problems with compilation of xfconf
In-Reply-To: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080706224237.74da0559@kepler>

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:12:29 +0200 Stefan Miklosovic wrote:

> hi
> 
> i want to compile xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27216, but this error appears to me
> after ./configure
> 
> config.status: creating Makefile
> config.status: creating common/Makefile
> config.status: creating docs/Makefile
> config.status: creating docs/reference/Makefile
> config.status: creating docs/reference/version.xml
> config.status: creating docs/spec/Makefile
> config.status: error: cannot find input file:
> docs/xfsettingsd/Makefile.in

Fixed in svn, thanks.  Next snapshot should work.

	-b

From decke at bluelife.at  Mon Jul  7 11:02:14 2008
From: decke at bluelife.at (decke@bluelife.at)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:02:14 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBS
Message-ID: <de2b50dc6f08cd91ac03ef11602f87e6.squirrel@webmail.itac.at>

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:53:25 +0200, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com>
>On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at
gmail.com> >wrote:
>> Xarchiver 0.5 is on the way out at last.
>> With this release I would like to have
>> full compatibility on freeBSD. Could
>> please anyone take care of this?
>
>No body out? Which gui do people use to handle
>archives on FreeBSD?

I already have ported Squeeze and the Thunar-Archive-Plugin to FreeBSD and
it should not be a big problem to take care of Xarchiver too since there
is already a port (which does compile and install but not work for me).

So i would like to help you out on this.

Bernhard Fr?hlich


From colossus73 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 17:03:59 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:03:59 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
	<c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>
	<556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807070803k6002c59fg611aee7bd5718328@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Landry Breuil <landry.breuil at gmail.com> wrote:
> The detection of xdg-open is still bad in configure.in.in, kill the
> AC_CHECK_FILE and use AC_PATH_PROG.

I killed it at all. Using g_find_program_in_path now.

> Hope you can fix this, i'm willing to test patches if needed.

Sure. Thank you for your detailed backtrace. I will send you a patch.
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 17:41:48 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:41:48 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBS
In-Reply-To: <de2b50dc6f08cd91ac03ef11602f87e6.squirrel@webmail.itac.at>
References: <de2b50dc6f08cd91ac03ef11602f87e6.squirrel@webmail.itac.at>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807070841j51edc61byb536cf346dfc4501@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:02 AM,  <decke at bluelife.at> wrote:
> I already have ported Squeeze and the Thunar-Archive-Plugin to FreeBSD and
> it should not be a big problem to take care of Xarchiver too since there
> is already a port (which does compile and install but not work for me).

Do you talk about this port ?
http://www.freshports.org/archivers/xarchiver/
Can you please be more specific about what doesn't work for you?

> So i would like to help you out on this.

Thank you.
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 17:45:52 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:45:52 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807070803k6002c59fg611aee7bd5718328@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
	<c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>
	<556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807070803k6002c59fg611aee7bd5718328@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807070845t25a60b38pf5a5fac4445beb9b@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure. Thank you for your detailed backtrace. I will send you a patch.

Please can you update to the current revision and try again to open a
tar.gz archive?
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From miklosovic at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 17:58:46 2008
From: miklosovic at gmail.com (Stefan Miklosovic)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:58:46 +0200
Subject: problems with compilation of xfconf
In-Reply-To: <20080706224237.74da0559@kepler>
References: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706224237.74da0559@kepler>
Message-ID: <ac5186d30807070858y5a4ab661s7769e4bbc1447e05@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/7 Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:

> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:12:29 +0200 Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
>
> > hi
> >
> > i want to compile xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27216, but this error appears to me
> > after ./configure
> >
> > config.status: creating Makefile
> > config.status: creating common/Makefile
> > config.status: creating docs/Makefile
> > config.status: creating docs/reference/Makefile
> > config.status: creating docs/reference/version.xml
> > config.status: creating docs/spec/Makefile
> > config.status: error: cannot find input file:
> > docs/xfsettingsd/Makefile.in
>
> Fixed in svn, thanks.  Next snapshot should work.
>
>        -b
>

Are you sure  you fixed it? Still same error after ./configure even in
xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27223 snapshot. Sorry for questioning, maybe I do
something wrong, or you have not yet uploaded next snapshot.
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From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Mon Jul  7 19:40:18 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:40:18 -0700
Subject: problems with compilation of xfconf
In-Reply-To: <ac5186d30807070858y5a4ab661s7769e4bbc1447e05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac5186d30807061312u1ed36513le4d903d8090541b1@mail.gmail.com>	<20080706224237.74da0559@kepler>
	<ac5186d30807070858y5a4ab661s7769e4bbc1447e05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48725502.5020205@cornell.edu>

Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
> 2008/7/7 Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:
> 
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:12:29 +0200 Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
>>
>>> hi
>>>
>>> i want to compile xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27216, but this error appears to me
>>> after ./configure
>>>
>>> config.status: creating Makefile
>>> config.status: creating common/Makefile
>>> config.status: creating docs/Makefile
>>> config.status: creating docs/reference/Makefile
>>> config.status: creating docs/reference/version.xml
>>> config.status: creating docs/spec/Makefile
>>> config.status: error: cannot find input file:
>>> docs/xfsettingsd/Makefile.in
 >>
>> Fixed in svn, thanks.  Next snapshot should work.
> 
> Are you sure  you fixed it? Still same error after ./configure even in
> xfconf-0.1.0svn-r27223 snapshot. Sorry for questioning, maybe I do
> something wrong, or you have not yet uploaded next snapshot.

Yes, I'm sure.  27223 is a snapshot from before I fixed it.  Wait for 
the next one to get generated; only once per day.

	-brian

From landry.breuil at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 19:52:07 2008
From: landry.breuil at gmail.com (Landry Breuil)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:52:07 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807070845t25a60b38pf5a5fac4445beb9b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
	<c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>
	<556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807070803k6002c59fg611aee7bd5718328@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807070845t25a60b38pf5a5fac4445beb9b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <556095500807071052o4cd01c04g4458dea35327d85b@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sure. Thank you for your detailed backtrace. I will send you a patch.
>
> Please can you update to the current revision and try again to open a
> tar.gz archive?

Builds and works fine, either for bz2 or tar.gz archive. I can browse
the files, cool :)
Some notes:
- using tango icon theme, i get broken icons for add and extract files
- in preferences, no icon for the 'archive' item
- selecting open or extract in file context menu does nothing, even is
text editor is set to mousepad.
- it's possible to create a new archive, but adding files seems to do
nothing, and no archive is really created.
- when extracting an archive, it's impossible to edit the target path,
system beeps when i try to type smth. Selecting a path in the tree
works though, and the files are extracted.
- i should do a port of xdg-utils to try the corresponding functionality.
Other than that, my basic testing showed no breakage.

Thanks,
Landry

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 21:48:47 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:48:47 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <556095500807071052o4cd01c04g4458dea35327d85b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
	<c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>
	<556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807070803k6002c59fg611aee7bd5718328@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807070845t25a60b38pf5a5fac4445beb9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<556095500807071052o4cd01c04g4458dea35327d85b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807071248gd1f00fdje8dcab8f977c0b4b@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Landry Breuil <landry.breuil at gmail.com> wrote:
> - using tango icon theme, i get broken icons for add and extract files
> - in preferences, no icon for the 'archive' item

Mmm, strange. I will install the svn code to check if I get the same behaviour.

> - selecting open or extract in file context menu does nothing, even is
> text editor is set to mousepad.

Yeah,it's not yet implemented ;)

> - it's possible to create a new archive, but adding files seems to do
> nothing, and no archive is really created.

This is because of the different switches for gtar. Could you please tell
me which switches are involved to create a tar archive? On Linux I do this:

tar -cvvjf /media/sdb10/xa_archives/test.tar.bz2 pixmaps

and the whole pixmaps dir is "tarred" into the archive.

> - when extracting an archive, it's impossible to edit the target path,

Yeah, normal behaviour. i don't know if I will implement this.

> - i should do a port of xdg-utils to try the corresponding functionality.
> Other than that, my basic testing showed no breakage.

Thank you Landry.
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Mon Jul  7 22:16:51 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:16:51 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807071248gd1f00fdje8dcab8f977c0b4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
	<c2ea3aba0807060340j38a600a7m98b0f8dce57de18c@mail.gmail.com>
	<556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807070803k6002c59fg611aee7bd5718328@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807070845t25a60b38pf5a5fac4445beb9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<556095500807071052o4cd01c04g4458dea35327d85b@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807071248gd1f00fdje8dcab8f977c0b4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080707221651.e3450a45.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:48:47 +0200, "Giuseppe Torelli"
<colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Landry Breuil
> <landry.breuil at gmail.com> wrote:
> > - using tango icon theme, i get broken icons for add and extract
> > files
> > - in preferences, no icon for the 'archive' item
> 
> Mmm, strange. I will install the svn code to check if I get the same
> behaviour.

The Add/Extract icons work for me but on my system the Archive icon in
the pref dialog is also missing.
This is due to a wrong path to the icon on the disk. The attached patch
should fix it.


Regards,
Enrico

-- 
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From landry.breuil at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 22:17:21 2008
From: landry.breuil at gmail.com (Landry Breuil)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:17:21 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807071248gd1f00fdje8dcab8f977c0b4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052253h31a52087m2b48a39888339b98@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
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On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Landry Breuil <landry.breuil at gmail.com> wrote:
>> - using tango icon theme, i get broken icons for add and extract files
>> - in preferences, no icon for the 'archive' item
>
> Mmm, strange. I will install the svn code to check if I get the same behaviour.
>
>> - selecting open or extract in file context menu does nothing, even is
>> text editor is set to mousepad.
>
> Yeah,it's not yet implemented ;)
>
>> - it's possible to create a new archive, but adding files seems to do
>> nothing, and no archive is really created.
>
> This is because of the different switches for gtar. Could you please tell
> me which switches are involved to create a tar archive? On Linux I do this:
>
> tar -cvvjf /media/sdb10/xa_archives/test.tar.bz2 pixmaps

Well, it's more or less the same with bsd tar :
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=tar

The only difference is that -j flag only exists in openbsd -current
since some months,
but tar -cvjf test.bz2 *.png here works fine and has the same behavior
than gtar.
(and same for tar -cvzf, with or without the -)

Speaking of that, it's not that hard to use bsd tar in place of gnu
tar, it would be simple
to directly build compatible commandlines for both instead of relying
on gtar port.
It's a bit harder for unzip/gunzip/unrar though. bzip2/bunzip2 should
be compatible too.

Landry

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 22:28:19 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:28:19 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <556095500807071317g3d06d84ewb3332d0d3a8b757e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
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	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
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On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Landry Breuil <landry.breuil at gmail.com> wrote:
> The only difference is that -j flag only exists in openbsd -current
> since some months,
> but tar -cvjf test.bz2 *.png here works fine and has the same behavior
> than gtar.
> (and same for tar -cvzf, with or without the -)

So I don't understand why it doesn't work, Can you please paste here
the command issued (you can get it from the terminal) and the error
message?

-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 22:34:13 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:34:13 +0200
Subject: Multiple pointer branch
Message-ID: <4abe35490807071334i6f8d0244q2825e3a99b521a96@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy,

I've created some code to add support for configuring multiple pointers
individually though xfconfd. The code seems to work w/o problems here,
but I'm not sure if it's ready for 4.6. Anyway, create a branch so more
people can test it.

When you compile the code, 2 binaries will appear, a daemon, which
contains code that should be integrated in xsettingsd and a settings
dialog that could replace the existing dialog code in xfce4-settings.

To settings dialog simply reads from X and writes to xfconfd, the daemon
applies all the settings on start and monitors changes to the xfconf channel.

It should also work with device hot plugging when X is compiled to support
this, but since my X server is not compiled with this support, I haven't tested
it. This function uses hal for watching device add/removes so it adds a
(optional) dependency on hal/dbus.

It also allows to set an acceleration < 1, so you can decrease to resolution
for pointer, which is a nice addition too.

Anyway, feel free to test it, esp hot plugging.

Cheers,
Nick

PS. this has nothing to do with MPX.

svn co http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/xfce4-settings/branches/multiple_pointers
make
start both xfce4-mouse-daemon and xfce4-mouse-settings

From landry.breuil at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 23:35:52 2008
From: landry.breuil at gmail.com (Landry Breuil)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:35:52 +0200
Subject: Help for compiling Xarchiver svn on freeBSD
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807071328l1338e5c3t78f44b86ac946a03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807051258r34e2c1fdr8c57ec799bfb1359@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080706112220.613f296c@84.200.240.9>
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	<556095500807060420v6f2c6d5ct1dfb9199d96a1d57@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Landry Breuil <landry.breuil at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The only difference is that -j flag only exists in openbsd -current
>> since some months,
>> but tar -cvjf test.bz2 *.png here works fine and has the same behavior
>> than gtar.
>> (and same for tar -cvzf, with or without the -)
>
> So I don't understand why it doesn't work, Can you please paste here
> the command issued (you can get it from the terminal) and the error
> message?

I get nothing on the console, and the list of files remains empty
after adding some files (whereas the statusbar says endlessly "adding
files to the archive, please wait"). The window title shows that i'm
filling test.bz2, but the file doesn't really exist on the disk, nor
in /tmp. If i try to recreate a second one named test.bz2, it says
that it already exists. It tried with test.gz and test.tar.gz too,
still no message on the console (i get the right commandline when
extracting an archive btw). Playing with various settings in 'options'
tab of the add dialog didn't help too.

Landry

From alexandream at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 01:42:11 2008
From: alexandream at gmail.com (Alexandre Moreira)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:42:11 -0300
Subject: XArchiver feature request.
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807052247l7d2cf440x6db57967f1777880@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14f1c8090701181719s435f9b6er2d7b7ab871d01f56@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052247l7d2cf440x6db57967f1777880@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14f1c8090807081642k1cfbbe0esceaf82d971688baa@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 3:19 AM, Alexandre Moreira
> <alexandream at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ... Hmmmm I just decided to take a last look on the software before
>> posting, and I think that it may not be that nice to have this option
>> (because of the way the application works internally) but still, I
>> leave the idea so we can have a nice discussion about
>> yet-another-polemic feature. What do you say ?
>
> This action can easily be performed even
> 'because of the way the application works internally'.
> I can issue a cp command to save the archive from the /tmp location
> wherever you want.
>
> Does it make sense to you?

Sure it does :)
> --
> Colossus
> Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 11:37:31 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:37:31 +0200
Subject: XArchiver feature request.
In-Reply-To: <14f1c8090807081642k1cfbbe0esceaf82d971688baa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14f1c8090701181719s435f9b6er2d7b7ab871d01f56@mail.gmail.com>
	<c2ea3aba0807052247l7d2cf440x6db57967f1777880@mail.gmail.com>
	<14f1c8090807081642k1cfbbe0esceaf82d971688baa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807090237u4a784420q5d4dedbc227350b1@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Alexandre Moreira <alexandream at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure it does :)

Added in revision 27242.
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Thu Jul 10 10:39:39 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:39:39 +0200
Subject: Xfconf troubles
Message-ID: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

Hi,

yesterday I compiled the latest SVN version of Xfce (include xfconf
and xfce4-settings) but didn't restart Xfce.

So, as I booted my system today, it made Boom and I got the changes.
The changes mean that I lost most my settings for xfdesktop and the
whole UI stuff.

I had to reconfigure my GTK theme, icon theme, xfdesktop config and
similar. Most of these weren't a problem except for two things:
a) I ended up with scary fonts...I'm not able to make the fonts look
like before. This is really, really annoying and hard to describe but
my system looks ugly. I already tried all the fonts I've installed here
(which didn't change lately, so I have the same installed as before).
And I tried various hinting settings. All without any noticeable
success.

Then I tried to play with setting a custom DPI value, as default 96 was
displayed but it wasn't active. I activated the checkbox and decreased
the value, this caused even more strange UI effects and finally killed
all my terminals and didn't let me restart it until I restarted my
whole X server.

The settings dialog for xfdesktop didn't allow me to add a custom
wallpaper. It provided a list of installed wallpapers but the little
"+" (plus) button for adding other files is insensitive. Furthermore,
IMO this button should be a real GTK stock button including the text
"Add" not only the icon.


Finally, I found this message in the logs which may be related to all
my problems with the new xfconf stuff which was just disappointing and
frustrating so far (it kept me successfully from being productive
instead I still fiddle around with these weird font settings :( ).

** (xfce4-session:3092): WARNING **: Unable to launch
"/home/enrico/apps/xfce-svn/share/xfce4/xfconf-migration/xfdesktop-xfconf-migration.pl" (specified
by autostart/xfconf-xfdesktop-migration-4.6.desktop): Kindprozess
?/home/enrico/apps/xfce-svn/share/xfce4/xfconf-migration/xfdesktop-xfconf-migration.pl?
konnte nicht ausgef?hrt werden (Keine Berechtigung)

I'm sorry this message is in German, the basic message is
'xfdesktop-xfconf-migration.pl couldn't be executed because it has no
executable bit set'.
Then I chmod'ed this file with 'chmod +x' to give it the executable bit
and ran it, and according to the output it worked but nothing has
changed.

Am I doing something basically wrong?
I hope so unless I'd suggest to all users to make a backup of their
Xfce config before using this new code to prevent loosing their
settings like me :(.


Regards,
Enrico

-- 
Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.asc
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From jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi  Thu Jul 10 11:22:18 2008
From: jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi (Jari Rahkonen)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:22:18 +0300
Subject: Xfconf troubles
In-Reply-To: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
References: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
Message-ID: <4875D4CA.5020202@pp1.inet.fi>

Enrico Tr?ger kirjoitti:
> Hi,
> 
> yesterday I compiled the latest SVN version of Xfce (include xfconf
> and xfce4-settings) but didn't restart Xfce.
> 
> So, as I booted my system today, it made Boom and I got the changes.
> The changes mean that I lost most my settings for xfdesktop and the
> whole UI stuff.
> 

It seems to me xfconf is still very much a work in progress. The lack of
tagged releases and/or announcements to indicate otherwise strongly
suggest this. It should not come as such a surprise if a piece of
software that has yet to see it's first release breaks something.

> 
> Regards,
> Enrico
> 

- Jari

From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 13:49:06 2008
From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:49:06 +0200
Subject: Xfconf troubles
In-Reply-To: <4875D4CA.5020202@pp1.inet.fi>
References: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
	<4875D4CA.5020202@pp1.inet.fi>
Message-ID: <bc122a250807100449x50258ecbo6a65bb417535ae57@mail.gmail.com>

complaining about stability or lacking features of software you pulled
from a development repository.... what did you expect??? what should
we do? develop in a closed repository and only release what actually
works? none of the issues you described sound critical or
interesting... and will (most likely) be fixed once a release is
due...

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Jari Rahkonen
<jari.rahkonen at pp1.inet.fi> wrote:
> Enrico Tr?ger kirjoitti:
>> Hi,
>>
>> yesterday I compiled the latest SVN version of Xfce (include xfconf
>> and xfce4-settings) but didn't restart Xfce.
>>
>> So, as I booted my system today, it made Boom and I got the changes.
>> The changes mean that I lost most my settings for xfdesktop and the
>> whole UI stuff.
>>
>
> It seems to me xfconf is still very much a work in progress. The lack of
> tagged releases and/or announcements to indicate otherwise strongly
> suggest this. It should not come as such a surprise if a piece of
> software that has yet to see it's first release breaks something.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Enrico
>>
>
> - Jari
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

From stephan at xfce.org  Thu Jul 10 14:01:38 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:01:38 +0200
Subject: Xfconf troubles
In-Reply-To: <bc122a250807100449x50258ecbo6a65bb417535ae57@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
	<4875D4CA.5020202@pp1.inet.fi>
	<bc122a250807100449x50258ecbo6a65bb417535ae57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0807100501u438372b1v866563d622904c79@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:49 PM, samuel <samuel.verstraete at gmail.com> wrote:
> complaining about stability or lacking features of software you pulled
> from a development repository.... what did you expect??? what should
> we do? develop in a closed repository and only release what actually
> works? none of the issues you described sound critical or
> interesting... and will (most likely) be fixed once a release is
> due...

You know what they say about assumptions. ^_^

-
Stephan

From jannis at xfce.org  Thu Jul 10 14:10:57 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:10:57 +0200
Subject: Xfconf troubles
In-Reply-To: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
References: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
Message-ID: <20080710141057.35f77489@84.200.240.9>

Am Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:39:39 +0200
schrieb Enrico Tr?ger <enrico.troeger at uvena.de>:

> Hi,
> 
> yesterday I compiled the latest SVN version of Xfce (include xfconf
> and xfce4-settings) but didn't restart Xfce.
> 
> So, as I booted my system today, it made Boom and I got the changes.
> The changes mean that I lost most my settings for xfdesktop and the
> whole UI stuff.
> 
> I had to reconfigure my GTK theme, icon theme, xfdesktop config and
> similar. Most of these weren't a problem except for two things:
> a) I ended up with scary fonts...I'm not able to make the fonts look
> like before. This is really, really annoying and hard to describe but
> my system looks ugly. I already tried all the fonts I've installed
> here (which didn't change lately, so I have the same installed as
> before). And I tried various hinting settings. All without any
> noticeable success.
> 
> Then I tried to play with setting a custom DPI value, as default 96
> was displayed but it wasn't active. I activated the checkbox and
> decreased the value, this caused even more strange UI effects and
> finally killed all my terminals and didn't let me restart it until I
> restarted my whole X server.

Hm. And you did have xfsettingsd and xfce4-settings-helper running?

> The settings dialog for xfdesktop didn't allow me to add a custom
> wallpaper. It provided a list of installed wallpapers but the little
> "+" (plus) button for adding other files is insensitive. Furthermore,
> IMO this button should be a real GTK stock button including the text
> "Add" not only the icon.

AFAIK, the wallpaper settings are just not finished yet.

> Finally, I found this message in the logs which may be related to all
> my problems with the new xfconf stuff which was just disappointing and
> frustrating so far (it kept me successfully from being productive
> instead I still fiddle around with these weird font settings :( ).
> 
> ** (xfce4-session:3092): WARNING **: Unable to launch
> "/home/enrico/apps/xfce-svn/share/xfce4/xfconf-migration/xfdesktop-xfconf-migration.pl" (specified
> by autostart/xfconf-xfdesktop-migration-4.6.desktop): Kindprozess
> ?/home/enrico/apps/xfce-svn/share/xfce4/xfconf-migration/xfdesktop-xfconf-migration.pl?
> konnte nicht ausgef?hrt werden (Keine Berechtigung)

Maybe start the script by hand and see what its output is?

  - Jannis
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From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Thu Jul 10 14:19:25 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:19:25 +0200
Subject: Xfconf troubles
In-Reply-To: <bc122a250807100449x50258ecbo6a65bb417535ae57@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
	<4875D4CA.5020202@pp1.inet.fi>
	<bc122a250807100449x50258ecbo6a65bb417535ae57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080710141925.ef23fdcb.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:49:06 +0200, samuel
<samuel.verstraete at gmail.com> wrote:

> complaining about stability or lacking features of software you pulled
> from a development repository.... what did you expect??? what should
> we do? develop in a closed repository and only release what actually
> works? none of the issues you described sound critical or
> interesting... and will (most likely) be fixed once a release is
> due...

Weird kind of response to feedback of new software...I thought it might
help to tell the devs about my problems just in case it might help to
kill bugs in an early stage, helping to get 4.6 out without other too
big delays...maybe I was wrong...

Hmm, maybe my first post was a bit too emotional, that was probably
because I was just a little bit disappointed of ending up with
something totally unexpected.
Anyway, of course I know all the stuff is just experimental, not yet
well tested and still in development.
It was by no means meant as a complain. It should be feedback to help
the developers...so, we(users) should not test new software and give
feedback? Should we wait for releases and then file bug reports against
a 'stable' software?


Regards,
Enrico

-- 
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From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Thu Jul 10 14:25:43 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:25:43 +0200
Subject: Xfconf troubles
In-Reply-To: <20080710141057.35f77489@84.200.240.9>
References: <20080710103939.0e1dfbae.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
	<20080710141057.35f77489@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <20080710142543.6054c682.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:10:57 +0200, Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>
wrote:

> Am Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:39:39 +0200
> schrieb Enrico Tr?ger <enrico.troeger at uvena.de>:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > yesterday I compiled the latest SVN version of Xfce (include xfconf
> > and xfce4-settings) but didn't restart Xfce.
> > 
> > So, as I booted my system today, it made Boom and I got the changes.
> > The changes mean that I lost most my settings for xfdesktop and the
> > whole UI stuff.
> > 
> > I had to reconfigure my GTK theme, icon theme, xfdesktop config and
> > similar. Most of these weren't a problem except for two things:
> > a) I ended up with scary fonts...I'm not able to make the fonts look
> > like before. This is really, really annoying and hard to describe
> > but my system looks ugly. I already tried all the fonts I've
> > installed here (which didn't change lately, so I have the same
> > installed as before). And I tried various hinting settings. All
> > without any noticeable success.
> > 
> > Then I tried to play with setting a custom DPI value, as default 96
> > was displayed but it wasn't active. I activated the checkbox and
> > decreased the value, this caused even more strange UI effects and
> > finally killed all my terminals and didn't let me restart it until I
> > restarted my whole X server.
> 
> Hm. And you did have xfsettingsd and xfce4-settings-helper running?

Only xfsettingsd, don't know how it was started, I didn't do it.
This is what I recently told Stephan, testing of all these is hard for
users as long as nobody has a clue how it works or how it is supposed
to work. Some basic usage instructions would be quite helpful. Maybe
this had prevented some of my troubles.
Just an idea.

> > The settings dialog for xfdesktop didn't allow me to add a custom
> > wallpaper. It provided a list of installed wallpapers but the little
> > "+" (plus) button for adding other files is insensitive.
> > Furthermore, IMO this button should be a real GTK stock button
> > including the text "Add" not only the icon.
> 
> AFAIK, the wallpaper settings are just not finished yet.

Ok, not a big deal, just wanted to mention it.

> > Finally, I found this message in the logs which may be related to
> > all my problems with the new xfconf stuff which was just
> > disappointing and frustrating so far (it kept me successfully from
> > being productive instead I still fiddle around with these weird
> > font settings :( ).
> > 
> > ** (xfce4-session:3092): WARNING **: Unable to launch
> > "/home/enrico/apps/xfce-svn/share/xfce4/xfconf-migration/xfdesktop-xfconf-migration.pl" (specified
> > by autostart/xfconf-xfdesktop-migration-4.6.desktop): Kindprozess
> > ?/home/enrico/apps/xfce-svn/share/xfce4/xfconf-migration/xfdesktop-xfconf-migration.pl?
> > konnte nicht ausgef?hrt werden (Keine Berechtigung)
> 
> Maybe start the script by hand and see what its output is?

I did as I told in my first post:
"Then I chmod'ed this file with 'chmod +x' to give it the executable bit
and ran it, and according to the output it worked but nothing has
changed."

Output is attached.


Regards,
Enrico

-- 
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From ogmaciel at gnome.org  Thu Jul 10 21:24:54 2008
From: ogmaciel at gnome.org (Og Maciel)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:24:54 -0400
Subject: Releases and translations
Message-ID: <98a1f5280807101224y432594cg8ba9c7a3358f596a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

I wanted to make a plea in name of the translators: whenever you guys
decide to release a newer version of FOO, could you give us a heads up
so we have time to work on the translations? Don't misunderstand my
request as an order, but simply a humble request from someone who
wants to see your work completely translated.

Cheers,
-- 
Og B. Maciel

omaciel at foresightlinux.org
ogmaciel at gnome.org
ogmaciel at ubuntu.com

GPG Keys: D5CFC202

http://www.ogmaciel.com (en_US)
http://blog.ogmaciel.com (pt_BR)

From mailinglists at vinnl.nl  Thu Jul 10 21:31:35 2008
From: mailinglists at vinnl.nl (Vincent)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:31:35 +0200
Subject: Releases and translations
In-Reply-To: <98a1f5280807101224y432594cg8ba9c7a3358f596a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98a1f5280807101224y432594cg8ba9c7a3358f596a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aed7edfa0807101231p6741fe8an57dfbdfc1e80127d@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Og Maciel <ogmaciel at gnome.org> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I wanted to make a plea in name of the translators: whenever you guys
> decide to release a newer version of FOO, could you give us a heads up
> so we have time to work on the translations? Don't misunderstand my
> request as an order, but simply a humble request from someone who
> wants to see your work completely translated.
>

+1 from me :)


>
> Cheers,



-- 
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From damailings at mcbf.net  Thu Jul 10 22:26:08 2008
From: damailings at mcbf.net (David Mohr)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:26:08 -0600
Subject: xfburn call for translations, new release coming up very soon
Message-ID: <472d4b250807101326p2103b66ave1ae43eb2ef51727@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,
following Og's advice I am giving notice that we are going to make a
small bugfix release of xfburn. The fix is very small, and already
done, but I want to use the opportunity to give anyone interested in
translating xfburn a day or two to update the po files. If you are
working on a translation, please shoot me a short notice so that I can
estimate how long I should wait before a new release.

Thanks!

~David

P.S. I try to keep the German translation up-to-date, but I since I
never use any Linux programs in German, I would not mind someone
having a second look over it and correcting my likely bad sounding
translations ;-)

From ogmaciel at gnome.org  Thu Jul 10 22:34:04 2008
From: ogmaciel at gnome.org (Og Maciel)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:34:04 -0400
Subject: xfburn call for translations, new release coming up very soon
In-Reply-To: <472d4b250807101326p2103b66ave1ae43eb2ef51727@mail.gmail.com>
References: <472d4b250807101326p2103b66ave1ae43eb2ef51727@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98a1f5280807101334t284798cwd262e31ae8f90263@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you David! :) We'll get the Portuguese Brazilian translation in a day.

Cheers,
-- 
Og B. Maciel

omaciel at foresightlinux.org
ogmaciel at gnome.org
ogmaciel at ubuntu.com

GPG Keys: D5CFC202

http://www.ogmaciel.com (en_US)
http://blog.ogmaciel.com (pt_BR)

From damailings at mcbf.net  Fri Jul 11 00:05:24 2008
From: damailings at mcbf.net (David Mohr)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:05:24 -0600
Subject: [Xfce-i18n] xfburn call for translations,
	new release coming up very soon
In-Reply-To: <1215727283.3417.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <472d4b250807101326p2103b66ave1ae43eb2ef51727@mail.gmail.com>
	<1215727283.3417.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <472d4b250807101505w1ba88da0k490bd4707a32a8eb@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Stavros Giannouris <stavrosg at hellug.gr> wrote:
> ???? 10-07-2008, ????? ???, ??? ??? 14:26 -0600, ?/? David Mohr ??????:
>> Hi everyone,
>> following Og's advice I am giving notice that we are going to make a
>> small bugfix release of xfburn. The fix is very small, and already
>> done, but I want to use the opportunity to give anyone interested in
>> translating xfburn a day or two to update the po files. If you are
>> working on a translation, please shoot me a short notice so that I can
>> estimate how long I should wait before a new release.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ~David
>>
>
> I'll probably give it a look during the weekend.
> In general, allowing a week or so for the translations would be OK.
> It will also give me a chance to have the translation reviewed.

Yes, I'll be better next time. For this release I was in a rush trying
to catch debian lenny, and the full freeze is coming up around the 15.
So maybe I can wait until after the weekend, and we might still have a
chance to catch it. Since Corsac has already gotten 0.3.1 in there
anyways, I might be willing to take the risk :-).

~David

From jannis at xfce.org  Tue Jul 15 11:47:41 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:47:41 +0200
Subject: xfce4-settings-helper
Message-ID: <20080715114741.76e1d85e@84.200.240.9>

Hey,

I'd like to mention two things about xfce4-settings-helper:

  1. It now supports keyboard shortcuts. Time for me to finish the
     keyboard shortcuts dialog (and maybe add keyboard themes). At the
     moment new shortcuts can only be defined manually, but I'll change
     this in the evening. Testers are welcome. I'm especially interested
     in knowing what happens if you change the keyboard scheme (e.g.
     from de to us) at runtime.

  2. I think it's a good idea to start xfce4-settings-helper in
     xfce4-session. Right now you have to start it manually but that's
     not what we want, is it?

See you around,
Jannis
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From mmassonnet at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 16:56:36 2008
From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:56:36 +0200
Subject: xfce4-settings-helper
In-Reply-To: <20080715114741.76e1d85e@84.200.240.9>
References: <20080715114741.76e1d85e@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <20080715145636.GE5603@failure.del>

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:47:41AM +0200, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I'd like to mention two things about xfce4-settings-helper:
> 
>   1. It now supports keyboard shortcuts. Time for me to finish the
>      keyboard shortcuts dialog (and maybe add keyboard themes). At the
>      moment new shortcuts can only be defined manually, but I'll change
>      this in the evening. Testers are welcome. I'm especially interested
>      in knowing what happens if you change the keyboard scheme (e.g.
>      from de to us) at runtime.

That is a great piece, you rock.  However, I tried to configure with
--disable-xf86misc but it still asked for xff86vm.

> See you around,
> Jannis

Cheers
-- 
Mike
mmassonnet at xfce.org

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 21:48:18 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:48:18 +0200
Subject: xfce4-settings-helper
In-Reply-To: <20080715145636.GE5603@failure.del>
References: <20080715114741.76e1d85e@84.200.240.9>
	<20080715145636.GE5603@failure.del>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807151248r19babf35t2870f50515bdcb06@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/15 Mike Massonnet <mmassonnet at gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:47:41AM +0200, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> I'd like to mention two things about xfce4-settings-helper:
>>
>>   1. It now supports keyboard shortcuts. Time for me to finish the
>>      keyboard shortcuts dialog (and maybe add keyboard themes). At the
>>      moment new shortcuts can only be defined manually, but I'll change
>>      this in the evening. Testers are welcome. I'm especially interested
>>      in knowing what happens if you change the keyboard scheme (e.g.
>>      from de to us) at runtime.
>
> That is a great piece, you rock.  However, I tried to configure with
> --disable-xf86misc but it still asked for xff86vm.
>
>> See you around,
>> Jannis
>
> Cheers
> --
> Mike
> mmassonnet at xfce.org
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 21:51:30 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:51:30 +0200
Subject: xfce4-settings-helper
In-Reply-To: <4abe35490807151248r19babf35t2870f50515bdcb06@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080715114741.76e1d85e@84.200.240.9>
	<20080715145636.GE5603@failure.del>
	<4abe35490807151248r19babf35t2870f50515bdcb06@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807151251me065791mbbb776d372ca7f43@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, repy and send appeared at the same place with gmail, meh...

2008/7/15 Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>:
> 2008/7/15 Mike Massonnet <mmassonnet at gmail.com>
>>
>> That is a great piece, you rock.  However, I tried to configure with
>> --disable-xf86misc but it still asked for xff86vm.

Are you sure? (Don't mix up xxf86vm and libxxf86misc).

Nick

From jasper at xfce.org  Wed Jul 16 16:39:13 2008
From: jasper at xfce.org (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:39:13 +0200
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
Message-ID: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,

I was wondering what the overall status was of the Xfce 'platform'
modules, that is the libraries and the new settings system.  I know
I'm not of much use to Xfce currently, but at least I'd like to test
the latest stuff.

For starters, the design of the new config system is not completely
clear to me. We have the following components:

- xfconf
  - xfconfd : settings store
  - xfsettingsd : XSETTINGS daemon. Data retrieved from xconfd?

- xfce4-settings
  - xfce4-settings-helper : I know I should just read the sources, but
anyone care to explain to me what this does?
  - xfce4-settings-manager : collect the different settings
executables and present a single dialog with the available options

BTW, as far as I can tell, xfwm4 is the only module that still depends
on xfce-mcs-manger, is that correct? I know there a bug, tracking the
progress here, so I'll see if I can use those patches to get a
rudimentary mcs free system ;-)

The other thing is that I'm not entirely sure about the state of the
GUI libraries: libxfcegui4 vs. libxfce4ui. Can we remove one of these
yet, or is that post-4.6?

I have a little bit of free time the next two weeks, so I'll see if I
can fix a bug or two (I haven't completely abandoned Xfce, you
know...)

Cheers,

-- 
 Jasper

From ongardie at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 17:01:07 2008
From: ongardie at gmail.com (Diego Ongaro)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:01:07 +0100
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <115252780807160801r16a1b100h2a45cd420e007cf@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 15:39, Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at xfce.org> wrote:
> I was wondering what the overall status was of the Xfce 'platform'
> modules, that is the libraries and the new settings system.  I know
> I'm not of much use to Xfce currently, but at least I'd like to test
> the latest stuff.

I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but on a related note, I'd like
to know which modules are being developed for 4.6 in branches instead
of trunk. For example, Stephen's recent work on the rodent icon theme
is in a branch. For my livecd scripts, I need to override the default
trunk assumption for these modules.

Thanks,
Diego

From mmassonnet at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 18:52:49 2008
From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:52:49 +0200
Subject: xfce4-settings-helper
In-Reply-To: <4abe35490807151251me065791mbbb776d372ca7f43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080715114741.76e1d85e@84.200.240.9>
	<20080715145636.GE5603@failure.del>
	<4abe35490807151248r19babf35t2870f50515bdcb06@mail.gmail.com>
	<4abe35490807151251me065791mbbb776d372ca7f43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080716165249.GA26365@failure.del>

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 09:51:30PM +0200, Nick Schermer wrote:
> Ok, repy and send appeared at the same place with gmail, meh...
> 
> 2008/7/15 Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>:
> > 2008/7/15 Mike Massonnet <mmassonnet at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> That is a great piece, you rock.  However, I tried to configure with
> >> --disable-xf86misc but it still asked for xff86vm.
> 
> Are you sure? (Don't mix up xxf86vm and libxxf86misc).

Nevermind, I thought it could be optional, but it is needed for the
display settings.

> Nick

-- 
Mike
mmassonnet at xfce.org

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 19:27:55 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:27:55 +0200
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807161027k1c340eecq8df3e05648de4ab5@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/16 Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at xfce.org>:
> Hey guys,
>
> I was wondering what the overall status was of the Xfce 'platform'
> modules, that is the libraries and the new settings system.  I know
> I'm not of much use to Xfce currently, but at least I'd like to test
> the latest stuff.
>
> For starters, the design of the new config system is not completely
> clear to me. We have the following components:
>
> - xfconf
>  - xfconfd : settings store

Yeah, it's a dbus service handling the xfconf channels, storing it
to xml files in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/

>  - xfsettingsd : XSETTINGS daemon. Data retrieved from xconfd?

Monitoring 1 channel of xfconf, the xsettings channel. It send the changes
(and on start: all) settings of the channel to X, so Qt/Gtk can handle
the changes.

> - xfce4-settings
>  - xfce4-settings-helper : I know I should just read the sources, but
> anyone care to explain to me what this does?

There xsettingsd handles all know xsetting settings (doh), this daemon (which
is not automatically started yet) handles all the other stuff, like
xkb, pointers,
shortcuts, accesibility... etc. Everything that's outside the xsetting scope.

>  - xfce4-settings-manager : collect the different settings
> executables and present a single dialog with the available options

Yup, collects settings desktop files of all the executables created in
the dialogs/ dir.

> BTW, as far as I can tell, xfwm4 is the only module that still depends
> on xfce-mcs-manger, is that correct? I know there a bug, tracking the
> progress here, so I'll see if I can use those patches to get a
> rudimentary mcs free system ;-)

Well not entirely, xfce4-settings-manager is only collecting desktop files
installed in a directory outside the 'normal' applications directory, so
for example xfce4-panel does not show up in the settings dialog, because
it's not installing a copy of the normal desktop file in the settings directory.
($prefix/share/xfce4/settings-dialogs/

I voted for looking the the applications directory and showing all applications
in the 'settings'/ category, but nobody had a clear opining on that...

> The other thing is that I'm not entirely sure about the state of the
> GUI libraries: libxfcegui4 vs. libxfce4ui. Can we remove one of these
> yet, or is that post-4.6?

libxfce4ui is post 4.6, no component is using it yet.

> I have a little bit of free time the next two weeks, so I'll see if I
> can fix a bug or two (I haven't completely abandoned Xfce, you
> know...)

Good, I'll commit some fixes to xfce4-panel this Friday so you can at least
test these ;-).

Nick

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 19:29:41 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:29:41 +0200
Subject: xfce4-settings-helper
In-Reply-To: <20080716165249.GA26365@failure.del>
References: <20080715114741.76e1d85e@84.200.240.9>
	<20080715145636.GE5603@failure.del>
	<4abe35490807151248r19babf35t2870f50515bdcb06@mail.gmail.com>
	<4abe35490807151251me065791mbbb776d372ca7f43@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080716165249.GA26365@failure.del>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807161029q186922acs79ff161c33e23b9d@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/16 Mike Massonnet <mmassonnet at gmail.com>:
> Nevermind, I thought it could be optional, but it is needed for the
> display settings.

libxxf86misc is optional for the xkb daemon code. xxf86vm is needed for
the dialog code.
libxxf86misc is also dropped in xorg-server master, so it's good we don't have
a hard dep on that one.

Nick

From moe at xfce.org  Wed Jul 16 21:10:03 2008
From: moe at xfce.org (Moritz Heiber)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:10:03 +0200
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080716211003.5bc1c7a3@xfce.org>

As for a release date: The alpha release has been pushed back until
Brian's back from Cairo which gives the rest of the team enough time to
implement all settings related changes and we'll probably be able to
ship the alpha without any component dependent on mcs.

Regards,

Moritz

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:39:13 +0200
"Jasper Huijsmans" <jasper at xfce.org> wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> I was wondering what the overall status was of the Xfce 'platform'
> modules, that is the libraries and the new settings system.  I know
> I'm not of much use to Xfce currently, but at least I'd like to test
> the latest stuff.
> 
> For starters, the design of the new config system is not completely
> clear to me. We have the following components:
> 
> - xfconf
>   - xfconfd : settings store
>   - xfsettingsd : XSETTINGS daemon. Data retrieved from xconfd?
> 
> - xfce4-settings
>   - xfce4-settings-helper : I know I should just read the sources, but
> anyone care to explain to me what this does?
>   - xfce4-settings-manager : collect the different settings
> executables and present a single dialog with the available options
> 
> BTW, as far as I can tell, xfwm4 is the only module that still depends
> on xfce-mcs-manger, is that correct? I know there a bug, tracking the
> progress here, so I'll see if I can use those patches to get a
> rudimentary mcs free system ;-)
> 
> The other thing is that I'm not entirely sure about the state of the
> GUI libraries: libxfcegui4 vs. libxfce4ui. Can we remove one of these
> yet, or is that post-4.6?
> 
> I have a little bit of free time the next two weeks, so I'll see if I
> can fix a bug or two (I haven't completely abandoned Xfce, you
> know...)
> 
> Cheers,
> 


-- 
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From christian at twotoasts.de  Thu Jul 17 00:41:48 2008
From: christian at twotoasts.de (Christian Dywan)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:41:48 +0200
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <4abe35490807161027k1c340eecq8df3e05648de4ab5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4abe35490807161027k1c340eecq8df3e05648de4ab5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080717004148.0cbc6d8d@twotoasts.de>

Am Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:27:55 +0200
schrieb "Nick Schermer" <nickschermer at gmail.com>:

> 2008/7/16 Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at xfce.org>:
> > Hey guys,
> > BTW, as far as I can tell, xfwm4 is the only module that still
> > depends on xfce-mcs-manger, is that correct? I know there a bug,
> > tracking the progress here, so I'll see if I can use those patches
> > to get a rudimentary mcs free system ;-)
> 
> Well not entirely, xfce4-settings-manager is only collecting desktop
> files installed in a directory outside the 'normal' applications
> directory, so for example xfce4-panel does not show up in the
> settings dialog, because it's not installing a copy of the normal
> desktop file in the settings directory.
> ($prefix/share/xfce4/settings-dialogs/
> 
> I voted for looking the the applications directory and showing all
> applications in the 'settings'/ category, but nobody had a clear
> opining on that...

If that is an option, I would really love to see the settings manager
pick up files from $prefix/share/applications. That has a few
advantages as I see it.

1. All files in one place, easy to find.
2. No need to install files in more than one place.
3. A future version could show non-Xfce apps as well.

Strings of the form "Categories=X-XFCE;Settings;DesktopSettings;" are
currently in use for Xfce settings desktop files, so it should be
straightforward to pick the right files.

Just my two pfennigs,
    Christian

From jannis at xfce.org  Thu Jul 17 01:27:26 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:27:26 +0200
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
Message-ID: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>

Hey all,

I just committed a bunch of changes to the glade dialogs of
xfce4-settings. Even though I wrote "please keep it that way", I'm
actually thinking about updating the layouts, borders and alignments
(and basically everything else) according to the GNOME HIG, not only in
xfce4-settings but also in other components.

What are your thoughts on this? IMHO only one or two persons should
take care of that and they should stay in close contact while they do
this. Now that I've more or less finished the keyboard shortcuts, I'm
keen on doing this. Objections?

See you around,
Jannis
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From nickschermer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 17 08:21:59 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:21:59 +0200
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
In-Reply-To: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
References: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/17 Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>:
> What are your thoughts on this? IMHO only one or two persons should
> take care of that and they should stay in close contact while they do
> this. Now that I've more or less finished the keyboard shortcuts, I'm
> keen on doing this. Objections?

Well sometimes I think the Gnome HIG adds too much or not enough
space in some situations, most of the time resulting in a dialog that
could be a couple of pixels larger then really needed.

Anyway, I don't care about this if all dialogs have this problem since
consistency is more important ;-). So feel free to do this (xfce4-panel
could use some HIG love...) and I won't touch the dialogs in
xfce4-settings anymore.

Nick

From stephan at xfce.org  Thu Jul 17 09:00:36 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:00:36 +0200
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <115252780807160801r16a1b100h2a45cd420e007cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
	<115252780807160801r16a1b100h2a45cd420e007cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0807170000t5e08b086j1e2f80086a36f531@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Diego Ongaro <ongardie at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 15:39, Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at xfce.org> wrote:
>> I was wondering what the overall status was of the Xfce 'platform'
>> modules, that is the libraries and the new settings system.  I know
>> I'm not of much use to Xfce currently, but at least I'd like to test
>> the latest stuff.
>
> I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but on a related note, I'd like
> to know which modules are being developed for 4.6 in branches instead
> of trunk. For example, Stephen's recent work on the rodent icon theme
> is in a branch. For my livecd scripts, I need to override the default
> trunk assumption for these modules.

I am developing that in a branch for a reason, It is more broken then trunk atm.
When it contains icons for most icon-names... it will move to trunk.

I dunno if it will be in time for 4.6 though.

>
> Thanks,
> Diego

Regards,
Stephan

From stephan at xfce.org  Thu Jul 17 09:01:59 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:01:59 +0200
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
In-Reply-To: <4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
	<4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0807170001n2e5a3f7bj36a373ee55282b73@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/7/17 Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>:
>> What are your thoughts on this? IMHO only one or two persons should
>> take care of that and they should stay in close contact while they do
>> this. Now that I've more or less finished the keyboard shortcuts, I'm
>> keen on doing this. Objections?
>
> Well sometimes I think the Gnome HIG adds too much or not enough
> space in some situations, most of the time resulting in a dialog that
> could be a couple of pixels larger then really needed.
>
> Anyway, I don't care about this if all dialogs have this problem since
> consistency is more important ;-). So feel free to do this (xfce4-panel
> could use some HIG love...) and I won't touch the dialogs in
> xfce4-settings anymore.

Same here ^_~

Stephan

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 17 09:48:50 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:48:50 +0200
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <20080717004148.0cbc6d8d@twotoasts.de>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4abe35490807161027k1c340eecq8df3e05648de4ab5@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080717004148.0cbc6d8d@twotoasts.de>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807170048x30ce60f8p328dd48480002695@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/17 Christian Dywan <christian at twotoasts.de>:
> Am Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:27:55 +0200
> schrieb "Nick Schermer" <nickschermer at gmail.com>:
>> I voted for looking the the applications directory and showing all
>> applications in the 'settings'/ category, but nobody had a clear
>> opining on that...
>
> Strings of the form "Categories=X-XFCE;Settings;DesktopSettings;" are
> currently in use for Xfce settings desktop files, so it should be
> straightforward to pick the right files.

It is, but since the changes are almost all in Brians code
(xfce4-settings-manager), we'll wait until he's back from vacation.

Nick

From jasper at xfce.org  Thu Jul 17 11:30:55 2008
From: jasper at xfce.org (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:30:55 +0200
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
In-Reply-To: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
References: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <9168d7f0807170230m9e910bcnd84f7bb351853ed4@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/17 Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>:
> Hey all,
>
> I just committed a bunch of changes to the glade dialogs of
> xfce4-settings. Even though I wrote "please keep it that way", I'm
> actually thinking about updating the layouts, borders and alignments
> (and basically everything else) according to the GNOME HIG, not only in
> xfce4-settings but also in other components.
>
> What are your thoughts on this? IMHO only one or two persons should
> take care of that and they should stay in close contact while they do
> this. Now that I've more or less finished the keyboard shortcuts, I'm
> keen on doing this. Objections?
>

Historically, I've tried to keep to the GNOME HIG, with borders of 8
where they say 12.  Like Nick said, consistency is much more important
than personal preferences, so I'm all for following the GHIG ;-)
Additional advantages:
- easier to point people to the guidelines
- fits better with GNOME apps

-- 
 Jasper

From mariosr98 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 17 15:34:31 2008
From: mariosr98 at yahoo.com (mario salcedo)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:34:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: problems with mode kiosk
Message-ID: <721198.28501.qm@web34804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi, I use xfce 4.4.2. I configure the mode kiosk. All ok, but now wen I do right click on the panel,  appear a menu with three options: Quit, Reboot, and About. I want to remove these options. I know that with file kioskrc I can avoid Reboot, but I don't  know how disable Quit. 
I know that xfce4-panel -q is Quit, but I can't disable.
Thanks


      

From jasper at xfce.org  Thu Jul 17 15:38:15 2008
From: jasper at xfce.org (Jasper Huijsmans)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:38:15 +0200
Subject: problems with mode kiosk
In-Reply-To: <721198.28501.qm@web34804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <721198.28501.qm@web34804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9168d7f0807170638y7c01da94i7d3ba6df90fb286b@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/17 mario salcedo <mariosr98 at yahoo.com>:
> Hi, I use xfce 4.4.2. I configure the mode kiosk. All ok, but now wen I do right click on the panel,  appear a menu with three options: Quit, Reboot, and About. I want to remove these options. I know that with file kioskrc I can avoid Reboot, but I don't  know how disable Quit.
> I know that xfce4-panel -q is Quit, but I can't disable.
> Thanks
>

Yeah, this is a bug. It has been reported here:
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4160 .

-- 
 Jasper

From christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de  Thu Jul 17 23:10:41 2008
From: christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de (Christoph Wickert)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:10:41 +0200
Subject: Question regarding xfce4-mixer
Message-ID: <1216329041.4967.18.camel@wicktop.localdomain>

If I read SVN correctly the option to set a custom mixer command in
xfce4-mixer-plugin has been removed. Why? This was one of the main
advantages over other mixer applets.

In fedora we ship PulseAudio, so we'd like to start pavucontrol instead
of xce4-mixer. Pleas re-add this option.

BTW: Are there any plans for PulseAudio support?

Regards,
Christoph


From jannis at xfce.org  Fri Jul 18 01:11:42 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:11:42 +0200
Subject: Question regarding xfce4-mixer
In-Reply-To: <1216329041.4967.18.camel@wicktop.localdomain>
References: <1216329041.4967.18.camel@wicktop.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20080718011142.1175fb6f@84.200.240.9>

Hey,

Am Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:10:41 +0200
schrieb Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de>:

> If I read SVN correctly the option to set a custom mixer command in
> xfce4-mixer-plugin has been removed. Why? This was one of the main
> advantages over other mixer applets.

Because the plugin is based on exactly the same code than the mixer
itself. So the sound cards and controls you can choose in the plugin
are exactly the same you can choose in the mixer. Thus it seemed only
logical to connect the plugin to the mixer. Especially since
xfce4-mixer is the only mixer shipped with Xfce.

I can see however why some people might want to use another mixer
instead, so I might add this feature again (please note that both, the
mixer and and the plugin have been rewritten from scratch).
 
> In fedora we ship PulseAudio, so we'd like to start pavucontrol
> instead of xce4-mixer. Pleas re-add this option.

I'm sorry to say this but IMHO pavucontrol is everything but a
user-friendly mixer. It's too technical and requires knowledge about
how PulseAudio works.

> BTW: Are there any plans for PulseAudio support?

The upcoming release of xfce4-mixer will support PulseAudio as it is
based on GStreamer. Any sound architecture supported by GStreamer is
also supported by the new mixer. You should be able to verify this by
compiling and running the SVN sources of xfce4-mixer.

  - Jannis
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From colossus73 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 22 23:30:21 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:30:21 +0200
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I apologize for asking a gtk related question into xfce4 ml.
I need to spawn the program in the object with g_spawn_async_with_pipes
or other kind of. The problem is that I don't get any error message but
the command is simply not executed. Is it possible to use the < redirector
with glib?

Thank you,
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From squisher at xfce.org  Tue Jul 22 23:31:58 2008
From: squisher at xfce.org (David Mohr)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:31:58 -0600
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <472d4b250807221431m31010626ge12b1c84d970b1ba@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I apologize for asking a gtk related question into xfce4 ml.
> I need to spawn the program in the object with g_spawn_async_with_pipes
> or other kind of. The problem is that I don't get any error message but
> the command is simply not executed. Is it possible to use the < redirector
> with glib?

I'm pretty sure that that won't work, because redirection is a shell feature.

~David

> Thank you,
> --
> Colossus
> Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

From daniel at daniel.com.uy  Tue Jul 22 23:42:54 2008
From: daniel at daniel.com.uy (Daniel Morales)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:42:54 -0300
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
In-Reply-To: <472d4b250807221431m31010626ge12b1c84d970b1ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
	<472d4b250807221431m31010626ge12b1c84d970b1ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4886545E.9080002@daniel.com.uy>

Maybe you can use g_spawn_command_line_sync to execute that command

//danielm

David Mohr escribi?:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Giuseppe Torelli <colossus73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I apologize for asking a gtk related question into xfce4 ml.
>> I need to spawn the program in the object with g_spawn_async_with_pipes
>> or other kind of. The problem is that I don't get any error message but
>> the command is simply not executed. Is it possible to use the < redirector
>> with glib?
>>     
>
> I'm pretty sure that that won't work, because redirection is a shell feature.
>
> ~David
>
>   
>> Thank you,
>> --
>> Colossus
>> Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>>
>>     
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From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Tue Jul 22 23:45:41 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:45:41 -0700
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <20080717004148.0cbc6d8d@twotoasts.de>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>	<4abe35490807161027k1c340eecq8df3e05648de4ab5@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080717004148.0cbc6d8d@twotoasts.de>
Message-ID: <48865505.1070106@cornell.edu>

Christian Dywan wrote:
> Am Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:27:55 +0200
> schrieb "Nick Schermer" <nickschermer at gmail.com>:
> 
>> 2008/7/16 Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at xfce.org>:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> BTW, as far as I can tell, xfwm4 is the only module that still
>>> depends on xfce-mcs-manger, is that correct? I know there a bug,
>>> tracking the progress here, so I'll see if I can use those patches
>>> to get a rudimentary mcs free system ;-)
>> Well not entirely, xfce4-settings-manager is only collecting desktop
>> files installed in a directory outside the 'normal' applications
>> directory, so for example xfce4-panel does not show up in the
>> settings dialog, because it's not installing a copy of the normal
>> desktop file in the settings directory.
>> ($prefix/share/xfce4/settings-dialogs/
>>
>> I voted for looking the the applications directory and showing all
>> applications in the 'settings'/ category, but nobody had a clear
>> opining on that...
> 
> If that is an option, I would really love to see the settings manager
> pick up files from $prefix/share/applications. That has a few
> advantages as I see it.
> 
> 1. All files in one place, easy to find.
> 2. No need to install files in more than one place.
> 3. A future version could show non-Xfce apps as well.
> 
> Strings of the form "Categories=X-XFCE;Settings;DesktopSettings;" are
> currently in use for Xfce settings desktop files, so it should be
> straightforward to pick the right files.

Yeah, I guess I'd be ok doing it this way.  I'm just afraid that parsing 
all .desktop files in all the usual directories would slow down startup 
quite a bit.  But I guess there's only one way to find out...

	-b


From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Tue Jul 22 23:47:19 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:47:19 -0700
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
In-Reply-To: <4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
	<4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48865567.4000300@cornell.edu>

Nick Schermer wrote:
> 2008/7/17 Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>:
>> What are your thoughts on this? IMHO only one or two persons should
>> take care of that and they should stay in close contact while they do
>> this. Now that I've more or less finished the keyboard shortcuts, I'm
>> keen on doing this. Objections?
> 
> Well sometimes I think the Gnome HIG adds too much or not enough
> space in some situations, most of the time resulting in a dialog that
> could be a couple of pixels larger then really needed.

Yeah, I agree with Nick here -- the GNOME HIG tends to be a bit 
padding-crazy.  But we should at least have consistency among Xfce apps, 
even if we don't go with the same amount of padding GNOME does.

Diego was working on a HIG for panel plugins a while ago... maybe could 
do something similar for Xfce dialogs.

	-b


From nickschermer at gmail.com  Tue Jul 22 23:52:10 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:52:10 +0200
Subject: Can we get a status update for 4.6?
In-Reply-To: <48865505.1070106@cornell.edu>
References: <9168d7f0807160739x34c1b5e6w46e6394c5b07cec8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4abe35490807161027k1c340eecq8df3e05648de4ab5@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080717004148.0cbc6d8d@twotoasts.de> <48865505.1070106@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807221452n6238deaan3cd7c17ed3a3596c@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/22 Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:
> Christian Dywan wrote:
>> Strings of the form "Categories=X-XFCE;Settings;DesktopSettings;" are
>> currently in use for Xfce settings desktop files, so it should be
>> straightforward to pick the right files.
>
> Yeah, I guess I'd be ok doing it this way.  I'm just afraid that parsing
> all .desktop files in all the usual directories would slow down startup
> quite a bit.  But I guess there's only one way to find out...

Eej, back from vacation ^_^. Anyway, I've already tried it and was
unable to see a speed difference, but I don't have _that_ much
applications installed.

Nick

From ongardie at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 00:00:54 2008
From: ongardie at gmail.com (Diego Ongaro)
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:00:54 +0100
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
In-Reply-To: <48865567.4000300@cornell.edu>
References: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
	<4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>
	<48865567.4000300@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <115252780807221500u50627214x144e4a696581a9b3@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 22:47, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> Diego was working on a HIG for panel plugins a while ago... maybe could
> do something similar for Xfce dialogs.

For panel plugins, I'd say that didn't really get anywhere. It's hard
to get people to agree on guidelines for something as personal as a
UI. I would expect this to be particularly extreme in the case of the
panel, though. Maybe it's best to adopt gnome's HIG but use less
padding here and there.
-Diego

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 08:11:17 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:11:17 +0200
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
In-Reply-To: <48865567.4000300@cornell.edu>
References: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
	<4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>
	<48865567.4000300@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807222311x5a627414k707a158df898e4c1@mail.gmail.com>

2008/7/22 Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:
> Nick Schermer wrote:
>> 2008/7/17 Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>:
>>> What are your thoughts on this? IMHO only one or two persons should
>>> take care of that and they should stay in close contact while they do
>>> this. Now that I've more or less finished the keyboard shortcuts, I'm
>>> keen on doing this. Objections?
>>
>> Well sometimes I think the Gnome HIG adds too much or not enough
>> space in some situations, most of the time resulting in a dialog that
>> could be a couple of pixels larger then really needed.
>
> Yeah, I agree with Nick here -- the GNOME HIG tends to be a bit
> padding-crazy.  But we should at least have consistency among Xfce apps,
> even if we don't go with the same amount of padding GNOME does.

I'd say we first make everything ghig.
We can always decide to use less padding in some cases, but I'm not sure
if the users are happy with that.
I mean, we all use _some_ gnome apps, so it's probably nicer (from the
consistency point of view) to adopt the gnome hig instead of making
something up ourselves.

Nick

From jannis at xfce.org  Wed Jul 23 09:10:58 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:10:58 +0200
Subject: Of layouts, borders and alignment
In-Reply-To: <4abe35490807222311x5a627414k707a158df898e4c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080717012726.59f59eca@84.200.240.9>
	<4abe35490807162321o770fa42ak35baa8ce6af29920@mail.gmail.com>
	<48865567.4000300@cornell.edu>
	<4abe35490807222311x5a627414k707a158df898e4c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080723091058.2c9b4d77@84.200.240.9>

Am Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:11:17 +0200
schrieb "Nick Schermer" <nickschermer at gmail.com>:

> 2008/7/22 Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:
> > Nick Schermer wrote:
> >> 2008/7/17 Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>:
> >>> What are your thoughts on this? IMHO only one or two persons
> >>> should take care of that and they should stay in close contact
> >>> while they do this. Now that I've more or less finished the
> >>> keyboard shortcuts, I'm keen on doing this. Objections?
> >>
> >> Well sometimes I think the Gnome HIG adds too much or not enough
> >> space in some situations, most of the time resulting in a dialog
> >> that could be a couple of pixels larger then really needed.
> >
> > Yeah, I agree with Nick here -- the GNOME HIG tends to be a bit
> > padding-crazy.  But we should at least have consistency among Xfce
> > apps, even if we don't go with the same amount of padding GNOME
> > does.
> 
> I'd say we first make everything ghig.
> We can always decide to use less padding in some cases, but I'm not
> sure if the users are happy with that.
> I mean, we all use _some_ gnome apps, so it's probably nicer (from the
> consistency point of view) to adopt the gnome hig instead of making
> something up ourselves.

Agreed. However, I think we can make a few exceptions, like using a
dialog/window border of 6px so we don't have to change each and every
dialog/window that exists. 

@all: I'm preparing a HIG checklist right now, which basically is a
very short version of the GNOME HIG and which can be put in every
module root directory. It's a text file of the format

  Title 1
  -------
  [ ] Point 1
  [x] Point 2

  Title 2
  -------
  [ ] Point 1
  ...

Very easy to edit, very easy to walk through your application to check
whether it follows the HIG and very easy for others to see what is
still missing.

  - Jannis
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From colossus73 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 09:39:23 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:39:23 +0200
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
In-Reply-To: <4886545E.9080002@daniel.com.uy>
References: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
	<472d4b250807221431m31010626ge12b1c84d970b1ba@mail.gmail.com>
	<4886545E.9080002@daniel.com.uy>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807230039s3fc5e311r5c251fe7c1d1296c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Daniel Morales <daniel at daniel.com.uy> wrote:
> Maybe you can use g_spawn_command_line_sync to execute that command

Unfortunately it doesn't work. Any other idea?
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From spamrefuse at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 23 09:42:30 2008
From: spamrefuse at yahoo.com (Rob)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:42:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Scrambled Terminal with Fedora 9
Message-ID: <512069.45558.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I have recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 9 (install from scratch).

It has XFce 4.4.2 installed with Terminal-0.2.8.

When the Terminal is hidden for some time behind a firefox window,
for example, and I get it back to the foreground, it occasionally is
scrambled; looks like the screen of an old black & white TV that has
no antenna connected to it. It's a static picture of random snow.

See:  http://skku.homeip.net/~lahaye/Terminal.jpg

This occurs only with the Xfce Terminal program, which seems to indicate a
problem at the Xfce side.

However, also it only occurred after upgrading from F7 to F9, which could
indicate that it is related to some X11 upgrade, or related to Fedora.

Any idea what this is about?
Anybody else has this too?

Regards,
Rob.



      

From mmassonnet at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 10:37:25 2008
From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:37:25 +0200
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807230039s3fc5e311r5c251fe7c1d1296c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
	<472d4b250807221431m31010626ge12b1c84d970b1ba@mail.gmail.com>
	<4886545E.9080002@daniel.com.uy>
	<c2ea3aba0807230039s3fc5e311r5c251fe7c1d1296c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080723083725.GC4630@failure.del>

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:39:23AM +0200, Giuseppe Torelli wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Daniel Morales <daniel at daniel.com.uy> wrote:
> > Maybe you can use g_spawn_command_line_sync to execute that command
> 
> Unfortunately it doesn't work. Any other idea?

I come here a bit in a hurry, so I just throw my random guess: fork
before running the command.  I think this should do it.

> -- 
> Colossus
> Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

Cheers
-- 
Mike
mmassonnet at xfce.org

From stephan at xfce.org  Wed Jul 23 10:33:49 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:33:49 +0200
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
In-Reply-To: <20080723083725.GC4630@failure.del>
References: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
	<472d4b250807221431m31010626ge12b1c84d970b1ba@mail.gmail.com>
	<4886545E.9080002@daniel.com.uy>
	<c2ea3aba0807230039s3fc5e311r5c251fe7c1d1296c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080723083725.GC4630@failure.del>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0807230133sc7a6f9agdd0b65696eda1ede@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Mike Massonnet <mmassonnet at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:39:23AM +0200, Giuseppe Torelli wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Daniel Morales <daniel at daniel.com.uy> wrote:
>> > Maybe you can use g_spawn_command_line_sync to execute that command
>>
>> Unfortunately it doesn't work. Any other idea?
>
> I come here a bit in a hurry, so I just throw my random guess: fork
> before running the command.  I think this should do it.

Sort of...

use: g_spawn_async_with_pipes (zip -z foo)

and write foowhat to the input_pipe...

Then it works.

Cheers,
Stephan

From botsie at xfce.org  Wed Jul 23 10:21:22 2008
From: botsie at xfce.org (Biju Chacko)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:51:22 +0530
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
In-Reply-To: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4886EA02.2040001@xfce.org>

Giuseppe Torelli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I apologize for asking a gtk related question into xfce4 ml.
> I need to spawn the program in the object with g_spawn_async_with_pipes
> or other kind of. The problem is that I don't get any error message but
> the command is simply not executed. Is it possible to use the < redirector
> with glib?
>   

This is probably what you want:

http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/popen.html


-- b


From mark at foresightlinux.org  Wed Jul 23 10:42:47 2008
From: mark at foresightlinux.org (Mark Trompell)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:42:47 +0200
Subject: Scrambled Terminal with Fedora 9
In-Reply-To: <512069.45558.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <512069.45558.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <dbfa5dfc0807230142x7030d4d1rf2fa45ede0be2aae@mail.gmail.com>

> However, also it only occurred after upgrading from F7 to F9, which could
> indicate that it is related to some X11 upgrade, or related to Fedora.
>
> Any idea what this is about?
> Anybody else has this too?

I had some problems with Terminal on qemu, kvm and virtualbox giving
me funky colours or making X crash.
They all disappeared after disabling Composite (which is enabled by
default in newer X) in xorg.conf:

Section "Extensions"
        Option "Composite" "disable"
EndSection

> Regards,
> Rob.

Mark

From colossus73 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 11:52:29 2008
From: colossus73 at gmail.com (Giuseppe Torelli)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:52:29 +0200
Subject: spawning a command like this: zip -z foo < foowhat with...
In-Reply-To: <4886EA02.2040001@xfce.org>
References: <c2ea3aba0807221430m15a78549m454da7e357d9ac41@mail.gmail.com>
	<4886EA02.2040001@xfce.org>
Message-ID: <c2ea3aba0807230252u7f0fbc91o5baadc69055005a5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Biju Chacko <botsie at xfce.org> wrote:
> This is probably what you want:
>
> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/popen.html

Thank you ALL for your kind answers.
-- 
Colossus
Xarchiver, a Linux GTK+2 only archive manager - http://xarchiver.xfce.org

From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 15:47:49 2008
From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:47:49 +0200
Subject: Scrambled Terminal with Fedora 9
In-Reply-To: <512069.45558.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <512069.45558.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <bc122a250807230647v7453c70eg1566467fe8548679@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Rob <spamrefuse at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I have recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 9 (install from scratch).
>
> It has XFce 4.4.2 installed with Terminal-0.2.8.
>
> When the Terminal is hidden for some time behind a firefox window,
> for example, and I get it back to the foreground, it occasionally is
> scrambled; looks like the screen of an old black & white TV that has
> no antenna connected to it. It's a static picture of random snow.
>
> See:  http://skku.homeip.net/~lahaye/Terminal.jpg
>
> This occurs only with the Xfce Terminal program, which seems to indicate a
> problem at the Xfce side.
>

you don't have it with other VTE terminals? vte, gnome-terminal, rox-terminal...

> However, also it only occurred after upgrading from F7 to F9, which could
> indicate that it is related to some X11 upgrade, or related to Fedora.
>
> Any idea what this is about?
> Anybody else has this too?
>
> Regards,
> Rob.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

From christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de  Thu Jul 24 18:50:30 2008
From: christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de (Christoph Wickert)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:50:30 +0200
Subject: Scrambled Terminal with Fedora 9
In-Reply-To: <512069.45558.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <512069.45558.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1216918230.5080.4.camel@wicktop.localdomain>

Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 00:42 -0700 schrieb Rob:
> I have recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 9 (install from scratch).
> 
> It has XFce 4.4.2 installed with Terminal-0.2.8.
> 
> When the Terminal is hidden for some time behind a firefox window,
> for example, and I get it back to the foreground, it occasionally is
> scrambled; looks like the screen of an old black & white TV that has
> no antenna connected to it. It's a static picture of random snow.
> 
> See:  http://skku.homeip.net/~lahaye/Terminal.jpg
> 
> This occurs only with the Xfce Terminal program, which seems to indicate a
> problem at the Xfce side.
> 
> However, also it only occurred after upgrading from F7 to F9, which could
> indicate that it is related to some X11 upgrade, or related to Fedora.
> 
> Any idea what this is about?
> Anybody else has this too?

I cannot confirm this here. Please tell us more about your setup:
What graphics hardware and driver are you using?
Are you using transparent background for Terminal?
Are you seeing the same with gnome-terminal, roxterm or lxterminal?

Regards,
Christoph




From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Sun Jul 27 03:17:18 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:17:18 -0700
Subject: libxfconf api changes
Message-ID: <20080726181718.5f56d8a8@kepler>

Hi guys,

I've made a couple changes to libxfconf's API to make it easier to
manage properties.  Nick wanted this for display profiles, but Jannis
noted it would be useful for keybinding themes as well.

xfconf_channel_get_all() has been renamed to

GHashTable *xfconf_channel_get_properties(XfconfChannel *channel,
                                          const gchar *property_base);

Passing NULL or "/" for property_base will give you the old behavior.
Passing a property name for property_base will give you the value of
that property, and any sub-properties in the tree from that point.

There's also a new

void xfconf_channel_remove_properties(XfconfChannel *channel,
                                      const gchar *property_base);

... which will remove all properties rooted at property_base.  If you
pass NULL or "/", the entire channel gets removed.

New docs up here:
http://mocha.xfce.org/~kelnos/xfconf/docs-current/

Since we haven't released any of this yet, I did NOT bump the library
interface version.

	-brian

From jannis at xfce.org  Sun Jul 27 07:35:37 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:35:37 +0200
Subject: libxfconf api changes
In-Reply-To: <20080726181718.5f56d8a8@kepler>
References: <20080726181718.5f56d8a8@kepler>
Message-ID: <20080727073537.159c5eee@84.200.240.9>

Hey,

Am Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:17:18 -0700
schrieb "Brian J. Tarricone" <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I've made a couple changes to libxfconf's API to make it easier to
> manage properties.  Nick wanted this for display profiles, but Jannis
> noted it would be useful for keybinding themes as well.
> 
> xfconf_channel_get_all() has been renamed to
> 
> GHashTable *xfconf_channel_get_properties(XfconfChannel *channel,
>                                           const gchar *property_base);
> 
> Passing NULL or "/" for property_base will give you the old behavior.
> Passing a property name for property_base will give you the value of
> that property, and any sub-properties in the tree from that point.

It seems to work, but I noticed that when you pass NULL or "/" for
property_base, all property keys in the hash table will end up with a
prefix of two slashes, like '//<Alt>F2' instead of '/<Alt>F2'.

  - Jannis
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From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Sun Jul 27 08:00:24 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:00:24 -0700
Subject: libxfconf api changes
In-Reply-To: <20080727073537.159c5eee@84.200.240.9>
References: <20080726181718.5f56d8a8@kepler>
	<20080727073537.159c5eee@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <20080726230024.7a261e01@kepler>

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:35:37 +0200 Jannis Pohlmann wrote:

> It seems to work, but I noticed that when you pass NULL or "/" for
> property_base, all property keys in the hash table will end up with a
> prefix of two slashes, like '//<Alt>F2' instead of '/<Alt>F2'.

Oops, that's what I get for looking at old code and thinking I can
'simplify' it.  I guess sometimes I do things the hard way for a reason
and should probably leave a comment about it :-P .

	-b

From nickschermer at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 11:17:23 2008
From: nickschermer at gmail.com (Nick Schermer)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:17:23 +0200
Subject: libxfconf api changes
In-Reply-To: <20080726181718.5f56d8a8@kepler>
References: <20080726181718.5f56d8a8@kepler>
Message-ID: <4abe35490807270217g75f95b6ds87b1abd9539648bd@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for fixing this.

Nick

From davidfrankiedistribution at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 27 15:20:47 2008
From: davidfrankiedistribution at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: libxfconf api changes
In-Reply-To: <20080727073537.159c5eee@84.200.240.9>
Message-ID: <325915.80419.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Jannis

Nice job on this .

How would I go about submitting my work for inclusion ?

Steve

http://www.stevesapparel.com/


--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org> wrote:

> From: Jannis Pohlmann <jannis at xfce.org>
> Subject: Re: libxfconf api changes
> To: xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 12:35 AM
> Hey,
> 
> Am Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:17:18 -0700
> schrieb "Brian J. Tarricone"
> <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:
> 
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I've made a couple changes to libxfconf's API
> to make it easier to
> > manage properties.  Nick wanted this for display
> profiles, but Jannis
> > noted it would be useful for keybinding themes as
> well.
> > 
> > xfconf_channel_get_all() has been renamed to
> > 
> > GHashTable
> *xfconf_channel_get_properties(XfconfChannel *channel,
> >                                           const gchar
> *property_base);
> > 
> > Passing NULL or "/" for property_base will
> give you the old behavior.
> > Passing a property name for property_base will give
> you the value of
> > that property, and any sub-properties in the tree from
> that point.
> 
> It seems to work, but I noticed that when you pass NULL or
> "/" for
> property_base, all property keys in the hash table will end
> up with a
> prefix of two slashes, like '//<Alt>F2'
> instead of '/<Alt>F2'.
> 
>   - Jannis_______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev

From jannis at xfce.org  Sun Jul 27 16:23:01 2008
From: jannis at xfce.org (Jannis Pohlmann)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:23:01 +0200
Subject: libxfconf api changes
In-Reply-To: <325915.80419.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20080727073537.159c5eee@84.200.240.9>
	<325915.80419.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080727162301.76ea27ec@84.200.240.9>

Hey,

Am Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
schrieb Steve <davidfrankiedistribution at yahoo.com>:

> Jannis
> 
> Nice job on this .

actually it was Brian who did the work.

> How would I go about submitting my work for inclusion ?

Sorry, but which work again?

  - Jannis
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From mark at foresightlinux.org  Tue Jul 29 14:10:45 2008
From: mark at foresightlinux.org (Mark Trompell)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:10:45 +0200
Subject: FOSDEM 2009
Message-ID: <dbfa5dfc0807290510h3976768lbd5193d5c84f6c63@mail.gmail.com>

hi,
I just found that http://fosdem.org/2009/brainstorm
maybe someone is interested in talking about Xfce, having a dev room, etc.
I'm not a developer, so I don't have much to say about xfce (except
that it's great).
Mark__T