From stephan at xfce.org  Tue Jun  3 19:07:18 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:07:18 +0200
Subject: Fwd: [Xfce4-commits] r27020 - in xfce4-session/trunk: . settings
	settings/session settings/splash xfce4-session
In-Reply-To: <20080603170312.8F454F29DD@mocha.foo-projects.org>
References: <20080603170312.8F454F29DD@mocha.foo-projects.org>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806031007t77cc1724o48f39e20a475a2a8@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, sorry... I screwed up, I thought the patch was complete.

Going to fix the splash-screen plugin in the next commit.

-
Stephan


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org>
Date: Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27020 - in xfce4-session/trunk: . settings
settings/session settings/splash xfce4-session
To: xfce4-commits at xfce.org


Author: stephan
Date: 2008-06-03 17:03:12 +0000 (Tue, 03 Jun 2008)
New Revision: 27020

Modified:
  xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in
  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am
  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am
  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c
  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am
  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c
  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
  xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am
  xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c
  xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c
Log:
Remove dependency on xfce-mcs-manager



Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in 2008-06-03 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in 2008-06-03 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -71,12 +71,8 @@

 dnl Check for required packages
 XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCE4UTIL], [libxfce4util-1.0], [4.4.0])
-XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCE4MCS_CLIENT], [libxfce4mcs-client-1.0], [4.4.0])
 XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCEGUI4], [libxfcegui4-1.0], [4.4.0])

-dnl Configure the MCS plugins
-XDT_XFCE_MCS_PLUGIN([XFCE_MCS_MANAGER], [4.4.0])
-
 dnl Check for D-Bus support (for HAL shutdown support)
 XDT_CHECK_OPTIONAL_PACKAGE([DBUS], [dbus-1], [0.34], [dbus],
                           [Hal shutdown support], [yes])

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am    2008-06-03 06:53:08
UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am    2008-06-03 17:03:12
UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 SUBDIRS =                                                              \
-       session                                                         \
-       splash
+       session
+#splash


Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am    2008-06-03
06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am    2008-06-03
17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -1,28 +1,21 @@
-sessiondir = $(libdir)/xfce4/mcs-plugins
+bin_PROGRAMS = xfce4-session-settings
+

-session_LTLIBRARIES =                                                  \
-       session_settings.la
-
-session_settings_la_LDFLAGS =                                          \
-       -avoid-version                                                  \
-       -no-undefined                                                   \
-       -module
-
-session_settings_la_SOURCES =                                          \
+xfce4_session_settings_SOURCES =
         \
       session.c

-session_settings_la_CFLAGS =                                           \
+xfce4_session_settings_CFLAGS =
         \
       -I$(top_srcdir)                                                 \
-       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_CFLAGS@                                       \
-       -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"$(localedir)\"
+       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_CFLAGS)                                           \
+       $(LIBXFCE4UTIL_CFLAGS)                                          \
+       -DLOCALEDIR=\"$(localedir)\"

-if HAVE_OS_CYGWIN
-session_settings_la_LDFLAGS +=                                         \
-       -export-symbols $(datadir)/xfce4/devel/mcs-manager.def
+xfce4_session_settings_LDADD =                                         \
+       $(top_builddir)/libxfsm/libxfsm-4.2.la                          \
+       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_LIBS)                                             \
+       $(LIBXFCE4UTIL_LIBS)                                            \
+       $(DBUS_LIBS)

-session_settings_la_LIBADD =                                           \
-       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_LIBS@
-endif

 desktopdir = $(datadir)/applications
 desktop_in_files = xfce-session-settings.desktop.in

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c      2008-06-03
06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c      2008-06-03
17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -35,10 +35,8 @@
 #undef XFCE_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 #endif

-#include <libxfce4mcs/mcs-manager.h>
 #include <libxfce4util/libxfce4util.h>
 #include <libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.h>
-#include <xfce-mcs-manager/manager-plugin.h>


 #define BORDER 6
@@ -280,31 +278,9 @@



-/*
-   Dialog
- */
-static gboolean
-dialog_response (void)
+static GtkWidget *
+settings_dialog_new()
 {
-  if (dialog != NULL)
-    {
-      gtk_widget_destroy (dialog);
-      dialog = NULL;
-    }
-
-  if (tooltips != NULL)
-    {
-      gtk_object_destroy (GTK_OBJECT (tooltips));
-      tooltips = NULL;
-    }
-
-  return TRUE;
-}
-
-
-static void
-dialog_run (McsPlugin *plugin)
-{
  GtkWidget *notebook;
  GtkWidget *label;
  GtkWidget *page;
@@ -318,8 +294,6 @@
      return;
    }

-  xfce_textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, PACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR, "UTF-8");
-
  kiosk = xfce_kiosk_new ("xfce4-session");
  kiosk_can_chooser = xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "Chooser") ||
xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "CustomizeChooser");
  kiosk_can_logout = xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "Logout") ||
xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "CustomizeLogout");
@@ -337,11 +311,6 @@
                                                NULL);
  gtk_window_set_icon_name (GTK_WINDOW (dialog), "xfce4-session");

-  g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (dialog), "response",
-                    G_CALLBACK (dialog_response), NULL);
-  g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (dialog), "delete-event",
-                    G_CALLBACK (dialog_response), NULL);
-
  dbox = GTK_DIALOG (dialog)->vbox;

  notebook = gtk_notebook_new ();
@@ -365,28 +334,27 @@
  gtk_widget_show (dialog);

  xfce_rc_close (rc);
+
+  return dialog;
 }

-
-
-/*
-   Mcs interface
- */
-McsPluginInitResult
-mcs_plugin_init (McsPlugin *plugin)
+int
+main(int argc, char **argv)
 {
-  xfce_textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, PACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR, "UTF-8");
+    GError *cli_error = NULL;

-  plugin->plugin_name = g_strdup ("session");
-  /* the button label in the xfce-mcs-manager dialog */
-  plugin->caption = g_strdup (Q_("Button Label|Sessions and Startup"));
-  plugin->run_dialog = dialog_run;
-  plugin->icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfce4-session", 48);
-  if (G_LIKELY (plugin->icon != NULL))
-    g_object_set_data_full (G_OBJECT (plugin->icon),
"mcs-plugin-icon-name", g_strdup ("xfce4-session"), g_free);
+    #ifdef ENABLE_NLS
+    bindtextdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, LOCALEDIR);
+    bind_textdomain_codeset (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, "UTF-8");
+    textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE);
+    #endif

-  return MCS_PLUGIN_INIT_OK;
-}
+    gtk_init(&argc, &argv);

+    dialog = settings_dialog_new();
+
+    gtk_dialog_run(GTK_DIALOG(dialog));

-MCS_PLUGIN_CHECK_INIT;
+    return 0;
+
+}

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
      2008-06-03 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
      2008-06-03 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 Encoding=UTF-8
 _Name=Xfce 4 Sessions and Startup Settings
 _Comment=Session and Startup Settings
-Exec=xfce-setting-show session
+Exec=xfce4-session-settings
 Icon=xfce4-session
 Terminal=false
 Type=Application

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am     2008-06-03
06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am     2008-06-03
17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -1,38 +1,21 @@
-splashdir = $(libdir)/xfce4/mcs-plugins
+bin_PROGRAMS = xfce4-splash-settings
+

-splash_LTLIBRARIES =                                                   \
-       splash_settings.la
-
-splash_settings_la_LDFLAGS =                                           \
-       -avoid-version                                                  \
-       -module                                                         \
-       -no-undefined
-
-splash_settings_la_SOURCES =                                           \
+xfce4_splash_settings_SOURCES =
         \
       module.c                                                        \
       module.h                                                        \
       nopreview.h                                                     \
       splash.c

-splash_settings_la_CFLAGS =                                            \
+xfce4_splash_settings_CFLAGS =                                         \
       -I$(top_srcdir)                                                 \
-       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_CFLAGS@                                       \
       -DMODULESDIR=\"$(libdir)/xfce4/splash/engines\"                 \
-       -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"$(localedir)\"
+       -DLOCALEDIR=\"$(localedir)\"

-splash_settings_la_LIBADD =                                            \
+xfce4_splash_settings_LDADD =                                          \
       $(top_builddir)/libxfsm/libxfsm-4.2.la

-if HAVE_OS_CYGWIN
-splash_settings_la_LDFLAGS +=                                          \
-       -export-symbols $(datadir)/xfce4/devel/mcs-manager.def
-
-splash_settings_la_LIBADD +=                                           \
-       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_LIBS@                                         \
-       @LIBX11_LIBS@
-endif
-
-splash_settings_la_DEPENDENCIES =                                      \
+xfce4_splash_settings_DEPENDENCIES =                                   \
       $(top_builddir)/libxfsm/libxfsm-4.2.la

 nopreview.h: $(srcdir)/nopreview.png

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c        2008-06-03
06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c        2008-06-03
17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -38,9 +38,7 @@
 #include <gmodule.h>
 #include <gtk/gtk.h>

-#include <libxfce4mcs/mcs-manager.h>
 #include <libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.h>
-#include <xfce-mcs-manager/manager-plugin.h>

 #include <libxfsm/xfsm-util.h>
 #include <libxfsm/xfsm-splash-engine.h>
@@ -337,7 +335,7 @@


 static void
-splash_run (McsPlugin *plugin)
+settings_splash_new ()
 {
  GtkTreeSelection  *selection;
  GtkTreeViewColumn *column;
@@ -570,25 +568,37 @@
  gtk_widget_show (splash_dialog);
 }

-
-/*
-   Mcs interface
- */
-McsPluginInitResult
-mcs_plugin_init (McsPlugin *plugin)
+int
+main(int argc, char **argv)
 {
-  xfce_textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, PACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR, "UTF-8");
+    GError *cli_error = NULL;

-  plugin->plugin_name = g_strdup ("splash");
-  /* the button label in the xfce-mcs-manager dialog */
-  plugin->caption = g_strdup (Q_ ("Button Label|Splash Screen"));
-  plugin->run_dialog = splash_run;
-  plugin->icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfce4-splash", 48);
-  if (G_LIKELY (plugin->icon != NULL))
-    g_object_set_data_full (G_OBJECT (plugin->icon),
"mcs-plugin-icon-name", g_strdup ("xfce4-splash"), g_free);
+    #ifdef ENABLE_NLS
+    bindtextdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, LOCALEDIR);
+    bind_textdomain_codeset (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, "UTF-8");
+    textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE);
+    #endif

-  return MCS_PLUGIN_INIT_OK;
-}
+    if(!gtk_init_with_args(&argc, &argv, _("."), entries, PACKAGE, &cli_error))
+    {
+        if (cli_error != NULL)
+        {
+            g_print (_("%s: %s\nTry %s --help to see a full list of
available command line options.\n"), PACKAGE, cli_error->message,
PACKAGE_NAME);
+            g_error_free (cli_error);
+            return 1;
+        }
+    }

+    if(version)
+    {
+        g_print("%s\n", PACKAGE_STRING);
+        return 0;
+    }
+
+    dialog = settings_dialog_new();
+
+    gtk_dialog_run(GTK_DIALOG(dialog));

-MCS_PLUGIN_CHECK_INIT;
+    return 0;
+
+}

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
2008-06-03 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
2008-06-03 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 Encoding=UTF-8
 _Name=Xfce 4 Splash Screen Settings
 _Comment=Splash Screen Settings
-Exec=xfce-setting-show splash
+Exec=xfce4-splash-settings
 Icon=xfce4-splash
 Terminal=false
 Type=Application

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am       2008-06-03
06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am       2008-06-03
17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -48,7 +48,6 @@
       $(GNOME_CFLAGS)                                                 \
       $(LIBSM_CFLAGS)                                                 \
       $(LIBX11_CFLAGS)                                                \
-       $(LIBXFCE4MCS_CLIENT_CFLAGS)                                    \
       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_CFLAGS)                                           \
       $(DBUS_CFLAGS)                                                  \
       -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE                                    \
@@ -63,7 +62,6 @@
       $(LIBSM_LIBS)                                                   \
       $(LIBX11_LDFLAGS)                                               \
       $(LIBX11_LIBS)                                                  \
-       $(LIBXFCE4MCS_CLIENT_LIBS)                                      \
       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_LIBS)                                             \
       $(DBUS_LIBS)                                                    \
       $(GNOME_LIBS)

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c    2008-06-03 06:53:08
UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c    2008-06-03 17:03:12
UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -48,7 +48,6 @@
 #include <gdk/gdkx.h>
 #include <gtk/gtk.h>

-#include <libxfce4mcs/mcs-client.h>
 #include <libxfce4util/libxfce4util.h>

 #include <libxfsm/xfsm-util.h>
@@ -144,13 +143,6 @@
  xfce_rc_set_group (rc, "General");
  sm_init (rc, disable_tcp);

-  /* start a MCS manager process per screen (FIXME: parallel to
loading logo) */
-  for (n = 0; n < gdk_display_get_n_screens (dpy); ++n)
-    {
-      mcs_client_check_manager (gdk_x11_display_get_xdisplay (dpy), n,
-                                "xfce-mcs-manager");
-    }
-
  /* gtk resource files may have changed */
  gtk_rc_reparse_all ();
 }

Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c
===================================================================
--- xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c        2008-06-03
06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
+++ xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c        2008-06-03
17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
@@ -325,7 +325,7 @@
  gtk_widget_show (vbox2);
  gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (logout_button), vbox2);

-  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfsm-logout", 32);
+  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("system-log-out", 32);
  image = gtk_image_new_from_pixbuf (icon);
  gtk_widget_show (image);
  gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox2), image, FALSE, FALSE, 0);
@@ -348,7 +348,7 @@
  gtk_widget_show (vbox2);
  gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (reboot_button), vbox2);

-  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfsm-reboot", 32);
+  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("system-reboot", 32);
  image = gtk_image_new_from_pixbuf (icon);
  gtk_widget_show (image);
  gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox2), image, FALSE, FALSE, 0);
@@ -371,7 +371,7 @@
  gtk_widget_show (vbox2);
  gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (halt_button), vbox2);

-  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfsm-shutdown", 32);
+  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("system-shutdown", 32);
  image = gtk_image_new_from_pixbuf (icon);
  gtk_widget_show (image);
  gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox2), image, FALSE, FALSE, 0);

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From stephan at xfce.org  Tue Jun  3 19:38:40 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:38:40 +0200
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27020 - in xfce4-session/trunk: . settings
	settings/session settings/splash xfce4-session
In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0806031007t77cc1724o48f39e20a475a2a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080603170312.8F454F29DD@mocha.foo-projects.org>
	<74b8614e0806031007t77cc1724o48f39e20a475a2a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806031038u43e2023asc0fdd2cf302c1e8e@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, fixed in revision 27021

-
Stephan

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org> wrote:
> Ok, sorry... I screwed up, I thought the patch was complete.
>
> Going to fix the splash-screen plugin in the next commit.
>
> -
> Stephan
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org>
> Date: Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM
> Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27020 - in xfce4-session/trunk: . settings
> settings/session settings/splash xfce4-session
> To: xfce4-commits at xfce.org
>
>
> Author: stephan
> Date: 2008-06-03 17:03:12 +0000 (Tue, 03 Jun 2008)
> New Revision: 27020
>
> Modified:
>  xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in
>  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am
>  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am
>  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c
>  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
>  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am
>  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c
>  xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
>  xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am
>  xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c
>  xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c
> Log:
> Remove dependency on xfce-mcs-manager
>
>
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in 2008-06-03 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/configure.in.in 2008-06-03 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -71,12 +71,8 @@
>
>  dnl Check for required packages
>  XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCE4UTIL], [libxfce4util-1.0], [4.4.0])
> -XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCE4MCS_CLIENT], [libxfce4mcs-client-1.0], [4.4.0])
>  XDT_CHECK_PACKAGE([LIBXFCEGUI4], [libxfcegui4-1.0], [4.4.0])
>
> -dnl Configure the MCS plugins
> -XDT_XFCE_MCS_PLUGIN([XFCE_MCS_MANAGER], [4.4.0])
> -
>  dnl Check for D-Bus support (for HAL shutdown support)
>  XDT_CHECK_OPTIONAL_PACKAGE([DBUS], [dbus-1], [0.34], [dbus],
>                           [Hal shutdown support], [yes])
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am    2008-06-03 06:53:08
> UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/Makefile.am    2008-06-03 17:03:12
> UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
>  SUBDIRS =                                                              \
> -       session                                                         \
> -       splash
> +       session
> +#splash
>
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am    2008-06-03
> 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/Makefile.am    2008-06-03
> 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -1,28 +1,21 @@
> -sessiondir = $(libdir)/xfce4/mcs-plugins
> +bin_PROGRAMS = xfce4-session-settings
> +
>
> -session_LTLIBRARIES =                                                  \
> -       session_settings.la
> -
> -session_settings_la_LDFLAGS =                                          \
> -       -avoid-version                                                  \
> -       -no-undefined                                                   \
> -       -module
> -
> -session_settings_la_SOURCES =                                          \
> +xfce4_session_settings_SOURCES =
>         \
>       session.c
>
> -session_settings_la_CFLAGS =                                           \
> +xfce4_session_settings_CFLAGS =
>         \
>       -I$(top_srcdir)                                                 \
> -       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_CFLAGS@                                       \
> -       -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"$(localedir)\"
> +       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_CFLAGS)                                           \
> +       $(LIBXFCE4UTIL_CFLAGS)                                          \
> +       -DLOCALEDIR=\"$(localedir)\"
>
> -if HAVE_OS_CYGWIN
> -session_settings_la_LDFLAGS +=                                         \
> -       -export-symbols $(datadir)/xfce4/devel/mcs-manager.def
> +xfce4_session_settings_LDADD =                                         \
> +       $(top_builddir)/libxfsm/libxfsm-4.2.la                          \
> +       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_LIBS)                                             \
> +       $(LIBXFCE4UTIL_LIBS)                                            \
> +       $(DBUS_LIBS)
>
> -session_settings_la_LIBADD =                                           \
> -       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_LIBS@
> -endif
>
>  desktopdir = $(datadir)/applications
>  desktop_in_files = xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c      2008-06-03
> 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/session.c      2008-06-03
> 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -35,10 +35,8 @@
>  #undef XFCE_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
>  #endif
>
> -#include <libxfce4mcs/mcs-manager.h>
>  #include <libxfce4util/libxfce4util.h>
>  #include <libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.h>
> -#include <xfce-mcs-manager/manager-plugin.h>
>
>
>  #define BORDER 6
> @@ -280,31 +278,9 @@
>
>
>
> -/*
> -   Dialog
> - */
> -static gboolean
> -dialog_response (void)
> +static GtkWidget *
> +settings_dialog_new()
>  {
> -  if (dialog != NULL)
> -    {
> -      gtk_widget_destroy (dialog);
> -      dialog = NULL;
> -    }
> -
> -  if (tooltips != NULL)
> -    {
> -      gtk_object_destroy (GTK_OBJECT (tooltips));
> -      tooltips = NULL;
> -    }
> -
> -  return TRUE;
> -}
> -
> -
> -static void
> -dialog_run (McsPlugin *plugin)
> -{
>  GtkWidget *notebook;
>  GtkWidget *label;
>  GtkWidget *page;
> @@ -318,8 +294,6 @@
>      return;
>    }
>
> -  xfce_textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, PACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR, "UTF-8");
> -
>  kiosk = xfce_kiosk_new ("xfce4-session");
>  kiosk_can_chooser = xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "Chooser") ||
> xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "CustomizeChooser");
>  kiosk_can_logout = xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "Logout") ||
> xfce_kiosk_query (kiosk, "CustomizeLogout");
> @@ -337,11 +311,6 @@
>                                                NULL);
>  gtk_window_set_icon_name (GTK_WINDOW (dialog), "xfce4-session");
>
> -  g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (dialog), "response",
> -                    G_CALLBACK (dialog_response), NULL);
> -  g_signal_connect (G_OBJECT (dialog), "delete-event",
> -                    G_CALLBACK (dialog_response), NULL);
> -
>  dbox = GTK_DIALOG (dialog)->vbox;
>
>  notebook = gtk_notebook_new ();
> @@ -365,28 +334,27 @@
>  gtk_widget_show (dialog);
>
>  xfce_rc_close (rc);
> +
> +  return dialog;
>  }
>
> -
> -
> -/*
> -   Mcs interface
> - */
> -McsPluginInitResult
> -mcs_plugin_init (McsPlugin *plugin)
> +int
> +main(int argc, char **argv)
>  {
> -  xfce_textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, PACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR, "UTF-8");
> +    GError *cli_error = NULL;
>
> -  plugin->plugin_name = g_strdup ("session");
> -  /* the button label in the xfce-mcs-manager dialog */
> -  plugin->caption = g_strdup (Q_("Button Label|Sessions and Startup"));
> -  plugin->run_dialog = dialog_run;
> -  plugin->icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfce4-session", 48);
> -  if (G_LIKELY (plugin->icon != NULL))
> -    g_object_set_data_full (G_OBJECT (plugin->icon),
> "mcs-plugin-icon-name", g_strdup ("xfce4-session"), g_free);
> +    #ifdef ENABLE_NLS
> +    bindtextdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, LOCALEDIR);
> +    bind_textdomain_codeset (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, "UTF-8");
> +    textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE);
> +    #endif
>
> -  return MCS_PLUGIN_INIT_OK;
> -}
> +    gtk_init(&argc, &argv);
>
> +    dialog = settings_dialog_new();
> +
> +    gtk_dialog_run(GTK_DIALOG(dialog));
>
> -MCS_PLUGIN_CHECK_INIT;
> +    return 0;
> +
> +}
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
>      2008-06-03 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/session/xfce-session-settings.desktop.in
>      2008-06-03 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
>  Encoding=UTF-8
>  _Name=Xfce 4 Sessions and Startup Settings
>  _Comment=Session and Startup Settings
> -Exec=xfce-setting-show session
> +Exec=xfce4-session-settings
>  Icon=xfce4-session
>  Terminal=false
>  Type=Application
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am     2008-06-03
> 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/Makefile.am     2008-06-03
> 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -1,38 +1,21 @@
> -splashdir = $(libdir)/xfce4/mcs-plugins
> +bin_PROGRAMS = xfce4-splash-settings
> +
>
> -splash_LTLIBRARIES =                                                   \
> -       splash_settings.la
> -
> -splash_settings_la_LDFLAGS =                                           \
> -       -avoid-version                                                  \
> -       -module                                                         \
> -       -no-undefined
> -
> -splash_settings_la_SOURCES =                                           \
> +xfce4_splash_settings_SOURCES =
>         \
>       module.c                                                        \
>       module.h                                                        \
>       nopreview.h                                                     \
>       splash.c
>
> -splash_settings_la_CFLAGS =                                            \
> +xfce4_splash_settings_CFLAGS =                                         \
>       -I$(top_srcdir)                                                 \
> -       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_CFLAGS@                                       \
>       -DMODULESDIR=\"$(libdir)/xfce4/splash/engines\"                 \
> -       -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"$(localedir)\"
> +       -DLOCALEDIR=\"$(localedir)\"
>
> -splash_settings_la_LIBADD =                                            \
> +xfce4_splash_settings_LDADD =                                          \
>       $(top_builddir)/libxfsm/libxfsm-4.2.la
>
> -if HAVE_OS_CYGWIN
> -splash_settings_la_LDFLAGS +=                                          \
> -       -export-symbols $(datadir)/xfce4/devel/mcs-manager.def
> -
> -splash_settings_la_LIBADD +=                                           \
> -       @XFCE_MCS_MANAGER_LIBS@                                         \
> -       @LIBX11_LIBS@
> -endif
> -
> -splash_settings_la_DEPENDENCIES =                                      \
> +xfce4_splash_settings_DEPENDENCIES =                                   \
>       $(top_builddir)/libxfsm/libxfsm-4.2.la
>
>  nopreview.h: $(srcdir)/nopreview.png
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c        2008-06-03
> 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/splash.c        2008-06-03
> 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -38,9 +38,7 @@
>  #include <gmodule.h>
>  #include <gtk/gtk.h>
>
> -#include <libxfce4mcs/mcs-manager.h>
>  #include <libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.h>
> -#include <xfce-mcs-manager/manager-plugin.h>
>
>  #include <libxfsm/xfsm-util.h>
>  #include <libxfsm/xfsm-splash-engine.h>
> @@ -337,7 +335,7 @@
>
>
>  static void
> -splash_run (McsPlugin *plugin)
> +settings_splash_new ()
>  {
>  GtkTreeSelection  *selection;
>  GtkTreeViewColumn *column;
> @@ -570,25 +568,37 @@
>  gtk_widget_show (splash_dialog);
>  }
>
> -
> -/*
> -   Mcs interface
> - */
> -McsPluginInitResult
> -mcs_plugin_init (McsPlugin *plugin)
> +int
> +main(int argc, char **argv)
>  {
> -  xfce_textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, PACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR, "UTF-8");
> +    GError *cli_error = NULL;
>
> -  plugin->plugin_name = g_strdup ("splash");
> -  /* the button label in the xfce-mcs-manager dialog */
> -  plugin->caption = g_strdup (Q_ ("Button Label|Splash Screen"));
> -  plugin->run_dialog = splash_run;
> -  plugin->icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfce4-splash", 48);
> -  if (G_LIKELY (plugin->icon != NULL))
> -    g_object_set_data_full (G_OBJECT (plugin->icon),
> "mcs-plugin-icon-name", g_strdup ("xfce4-splash"), g_free);
> +    #ifdef ENABLE_NLS
> +    bindtextdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, LOCALEDIR);
> +    bind_textdomain_codeset (GETTEXT_PACKAGE, "UTF-8");
> +    textdomain (GETTEXT_PACKAGE);
> +    #endif
>
> -  return MCS_PLUGIN_INIT_OK;
> -}
> +    if(!gtk_init_with_args(&argc, &argv, _("."), entries, PACKAGE, &cli_error))
> +    {
> +        if (cli_error != NULL)
> +        {
> +            g_print (_("%s: %s\nTry %s --help to see a full list of
> available command line options.\n"), PACKAGE, cli_error->message,
> PACKAGE_NAME);
> +            g_error_free (cli_error);
> +            return 1;
> +        }
> +    }
>
> +    if(version)
> +    {
> +        g_print("%s\n", PACKAGE_STRING);
> +        return 0;
> +    }
> +
> +    dialog = settings_dialog_new();
> +
> +    gtk_dialog_run(GTK_DIALOG(dialog));
>
> -MCS_PLUGIN_CHECK_INIT;
> +    return 0;
> +
> +}
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
> 2008-06-03 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/settings/splash/xfce-splash-settings.desktop.in
> 2008-06-03 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
>  Encoding=UTF-8
>  _Name=Xfce 4 Splash Screen Settings
>  _Comment=Splash Screen Settings
> -Exec=xfce-setting-show splash
> +Exec=xfce4-splash-settings
>  Icon=xfce4-splash
>  Terminal=false
>  Type=Application
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am       2008-06-03
> 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/Makefile.am       2008-06-03
> 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -48,7 +48,6 @@
>       $(GNOME_CFLAGS)                                                 \
>       $(LIBSM_CFLAGS)                                                 \
>       $(LIBX11_CFLAGS)                                                \
> -       $(LIBXFCE4MCS_CLIENT_CFLAGS)                                    \
>       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_CFLAGS)                                           \
>       $(DBUS_CFLAGS)                                                  \
>       -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE                                    \
> @@ -63,7 +62,6 @@
>       $(LIBSM_LIBS)                                                   \
>       $(LIBX11_LDFLAGS)                                               \
>       $(LIBX11_LIBS)                                                  \
> -       $(LIBXFCE4MCS_CLIENT_LIBS)                                      \
>       $(LIBXFCEGUI4_LIBS)                                             \
>       $(DBUS_LIBS)                                                    \
>       $(GNOME_LIBS)
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c    2008-06-03 06:53:08
> UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/main.c    2008-06-03 17:03:12
> UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -48,7 +48,6 @@
>  #include <gdk/gdkx.h>
>  #include <gtk/gtk.h>
>
> -#include <libxfce4mcs/mcs-client.h>
>  #include <libxfce4util/libxfce4util.h>
>
>  #include <libxfsm/xfsm-util.h>
> @@ -144,13 +143,6 @@
>  xfce_rc_set_group (rc, "General");
>  sm_init (rc, disable_tcp);
>
> -  /* start a MCS manager process per screen (FIXME: parallel to
> loading logo) */
> -  for (n = 0; n < gdk_display_get_n_screens (dpy); ++n)
> -    {
> -      mcs_client_check_manager (gdk_x11_display_get_xdisplay (dpy), n,
> -                                "xfce-mcs-manager");
> -    }
> -
>  /* gtk resource files may have changed */
>  gtk_rc_reparse_all ();
>  }
>
> Modified: xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c
> ===================================================================
> --- xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c        2008-06-03
> 06:53:08 UTC (rev 27019)
> +++ xfce4-session/trunk/xfce4-session/shutdown.c        2008-06-03
> 17:03:12 UTC (rev 27020)
> @@ -325,7 +325,7 @@
>  gtk_widget_show (vbox2);
>  gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (logout_button), vbox2);
>
> -  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfsm-logout", 32);
> +  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("system-log-out", 32);
>  image = gtk_image_new_from_pixbuf (icon);
>  gtk_widget_show (image);
>  gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox2), image, FALSE, FALSE, 0);
> @@ -348,7 +348,7 @@
>  gtk_widget_show (vbox2);
>  gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (reboot_button), vbox2);
>
> -  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfsm-reboot", 32);
> +  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("system-reboot", 32);
>  image = gtk_image_new_from_pixbuf (icon);
>  gtk_widget_show (image);
>  gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox2), image, FALSE, FALSE, 0);
> @@ -371,7 +371,7 @@
>  gtk_widget_show (vbox2);
>  gtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER (halt_button), vbox2);
>
> -  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("xfsm-shutdown", 32);
> +  icon = xfce_themed_icon_load ("system-shutdown", 32);
>  image = gtk_image_new_from_pixbuf (icon);
>  gtk_widget_show (image);
>  gtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (vbox2), image, FALSE, FALSE, 0);
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Xfce4-commits at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-commits
>

From stephan at xfce.org  Tue Jun  3 20:17:28 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:17:28 +0200
Subject: Fwd: xfce4-session development
In-Reply-To: <484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
References: <74b8614e0806030542n5941f368l2f4794356aa9d3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>

To make everybody feel comfortable, here: proof benny is still alive ^_^.

-
Stephan


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Benedikt Meurer <benedikt.meurer at unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
Date: Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: xfce4-session development
To: Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org>


Stephan Arts wrote:
> Hi Benny,
>
> As you might have noticed, there are several open bugreports for xfce4-session:
>
> Bug 3487 - Switch to libwnck and remove netk from libxfcegui4 [0]
> Bug 4034 - xfce4-session icon-naming-spec compliance [1]
> Bug 4091 - Xfce4-session migration to xfconf [2]
>
> and more, but they are far from trivial, and should possibly be
> further discussed on the xfce4-dev mailing-list.
>
> About the bugreports mentioned above, is it ok if I commit the changes?

Of course, go ahead.

> Regards,
> Stephan

Benedikt

From colin at colino.net  Tue Jun  3 20:19:25 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:19:25 +0200
Subject: Fwd: xfce4-session development
In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74b8614e0806030542n5941f368l2f4794356aa9d3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
	<74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080603201925.543c0325@jack>

On 03 June 2008 at 20h06, Stephan Arts wrote:

Hi, 

> To make everybody feel comfortable, here: proof benny is still alive
> ^_^.

Can you ask him about bug 3994 and its latest patch too, if you're
interested in commiting it? :)

http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3994

Thanks,
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From benedikt.meurer at unix-ag.uni-siegen.de  Tue Jun  3 21:59:01 2008
From: benedikt.meurer at unix-ag.uni-siegen.de (Benedikt Meurer)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:59:01 +0200
Subject: Fwd: xfce4-session development
In-Reply-To: <20080603201925.543c0325@jack>
References: <74b8614e0806030542n5941f368l2f4794356aa9d3c@mail.gmail.com>	<484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>	<74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080603201925.543c0325@jack>
Message-ID: <4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>

Colin Leroy wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
>> To make everybody feel comfortable, here: proof benny is still alive
>> ^_^.
> 
> Can you ask him about bug 3994 and its latest patch too, if you're
> interested in commiting it? :)
> 
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3994

Ah yes, now that you mention it, there's an unread mail with sender
"Colin Leroy" in my xfce inbox... funny thing is, I already wondered why
the terminal in debian uses colors for the tab titles from time to time
(I couldn't remember adding something like to terminal). That kinda
explains it...

So feel free to commit that as well.

Benedikt

From stephan at xfce.org  Tue Jun  3 22:55:07 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:55:07 +0200
Subject: Fwd: xfce4-session development
In-Reply-To: <4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
References: <74b8614e0806030542n5941f368l2f4794356aa9d3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
	<74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080603201925.543c0325@jack>
	<4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806031355m3779f6e5r1527537f9aa20397@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Benedikt Meurer
<benedikt.meurer at unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> wrote:
> Colin Leroy wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> To make everybody feel comfortable, here: proof benny is still alive
>>> ^_^.
>>
>> Can you ask him about bug 3994 and its latest patch too, if you're
>> interested in commiting it? :)
>>
>> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3994
>
> Ah yes, now that you mention it, there's an unread mail with sender
> "Colin Leroy" in my xfce inbox... funny thing is, I already wondered why
> the terminal in debian uses colors for the tab titles from time to time
> (I couldn't remember adding something like to terminal). That kinda
> explains it...
>
> So feel free to commit that as well.

Done, applied the patch, tested the behaviour (now, that was cool ^_^).
And committed.

-
Stephan

From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Tue Jun  3 23:18:04 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:18:04 +0200
Subject: Fwd: xfce4-session development
In-Reply-To: <4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
References: <74b8614e0806030542n5941f368l2f4794356aa9d3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
	<74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080603201925.543c0325@jack>
	<4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
Message-ID: <20080603231804.490ebae5.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:59:01 +0200, Benedikt Meurer
<benedikt.meurer at unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> wrote:

> Colin Leroy wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> >> To make everybody feel comfortable, here: proof benny is still
> >> alive ^_^.
> > 
> > Can you ask him about bug 3994 and its latest patch too, if you're
> > interested in commiting it? :)
> > 
> > http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3994

If we are talking about old bugs, what about
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3992
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3993
and especially http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4071?

All three are most likely easy to fix and won't take much time.


Regards,
Enrico

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From corsac at debian.org  Wed Jun  4 07:24:54 2008
From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:24:54 +0200
Subject: Fwd: xfce4-session development
In-Reply-To: <4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
References: <74b8614e0806030542n5941f368l2f4794356aa9d3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
	<74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080603201925.543c0325@jack> <4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
Message-ID: <1212557094.8931.0.camel@hidalgo>

On mar, 2008-06-03 at 21:59 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Ah yes, now that you mention it, there's an unread mail with sender
> "Colin Leroy" in my xfce inbox... funny thing is, I already wondered
> why
> the terminal in debian uses colors for the tab titles from time to
> time
> (I couldn't remember adding something like to terminal). That kinda
> explains it...

He's alive, urrah! Hope you're fine :)
-- 
Yves-Alexis
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From colin at colino.net  Wed Jun  4 08:34:56 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:34:56 +0200
Subject: Fwd: xfce4-session development
In-Reply-To: <4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
References: <74b8614e0806030542n5941f368l2f4794356aa9d3c@mail.gmail.com>
	<484540E8.4050800@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
	<74b8614e0806031117oe9faf2etaa8fdcc4e162651a@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4845A285.3050705@unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>
Message-ID: <20080604083456.22f82fa0@paperstreet.colino.net>

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:59:01 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:

Hi,

> Ah yes, now that you mention it, there's an unread mail with sender
> "Colin Leroy" in my xfce inbox... funny thing is, I already wondered
> why the terminal in debian uses colors for the tab titles from time
> to time (I couldn't remember adding something like to terminal). That
> kinda explains it...

Yes, the debian maintainer applied the patch first :)

Thanks!
-- 
Colin

From pangdae at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 22:22:36 2008
From: pangdae at gmail.com (Pang Dawei)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 04:22:36 +0800
Subject: How to compile ui.xml to ui.h
Message-ID: <cc09604f0806051322n6ec55a42wd0cda3428fa2f653@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,all
    I modified thunar-window-ui.xml, and need to thunar-window-ui.h.
    I check the source code of  thunar-window-ui.h. I found that is
"automatically generated from ./thunar-window-ui.xml".
But I run the make command, the thunar-window-ui.h cannot be generated.
    Can you help me how can I compile the thunar-window-ui.xml to
thunar-window-ui.h.
    Thank you very much.
-- 
--Pang Dawei

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Thu Jun  5 23:09:31 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:09:31 -0700
Subject: How to compile ui.xml to ui.h
In-Reply-To: <cc09604f0806051322n6ec55a42wd0cda3428fa2f653@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cc09604f0806051322n6ec55a42wd0cda3428fa2f653@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4848560B.3000101@cornell.edu>

(Please don't cross-post.  xfce4-dev is enough.  Actually, the 
appropriate list is thunar-dev, but that's ok.)

Pang Dawei wrote:
> Hi,all
>     I modified thunar-window-ui.xml, and need to thunar-window-ui.h.
>     I check the source code of  thunar-window-ui.h. I found that is
> "automatically generated from ./thunar-window-ui.xml".
> But I run the make command, the thunar-window-ui.h cannot be generated.
>     Can you help me how can I compile the thunar-window-ui.xml to
> thunar-window-ui.h.
>     Thank you very much.

You need to run configure with --enable-maintainer-mode.

	-brian

From stephan at xfce.org  Thu Jun  5 23:59:10 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:59:10 +0200
Subject: [xfconf] status of removing mcs from dependencies
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806051459l65a4b6eu4b60dcef671a169a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I thought I'd give you an update on the migration-status from mcs to xfconf:

Modules already migrated:
- xfce4-session
- xfprint
- xfce-utils


Modules which work both with and without mcs:
- xfce4-panel
- libexo (exo-preferred-apps)
- thunar


Modules still to be migrated:
- xfdesktop
- xfwm4
- mcs-plugins
- orage

These last modules still need to be migrated before Pinky (Xfce 4.6
ALPHA) can be released.

Cheers,
Stephan

From mrbojangles3 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 19:39:45 2008
From: mrbojangles3 at gmail.com (Logan)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:39:45 -0400
Subject: How can a new guy get into dev?
Message-ID: <48497661.3040205@gmail.com>

Hello all
I am a 2nd year cs major, I am interested in linux development and i am 
wondering what the best way to get my foot in the door so to speak. I 
have knowledge of java, a little C and C# and good knowledge of python. 
but my experience seems to be in the educational side of the language, 
like how to make arrays and exercises like data structures. I would like 
to develop for xfce. can anyone offer tips, development environments, 
languages to learn, even  how to get started. i get the dev mailing list 
in digest mode.



From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 20:38:57 2008
From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:38:57 +0200
Subject: How can a new guy get into dev?
In-Reply-To: <48497661.3040205@gmail.com>
References: <48497661.3040205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bc122a250806061138q4de791c7wfc7a485300e2da5e@mail.gmail.com>

plz... C only ;)
i think most of the ppl would advise you to start with something small
as a panel plugin... maybe a thunar plugin... but start something
small...

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Logan <mrbojangles3 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all
> I am a 2nd year cs major, I am interested in linux development and i am
> wondering what the best way to get my foot in the door so to speak. I
> have knowledge of java, a little C and C# and good knowledge of python.
> but my experience seems to be in the educational side of the language,
> like how to make arrays and exercises like data structures. I would like
> to develop for xfce. can anyone offer tips, development environments,
> languages to learn, even  how to get started. i get the dev mailing list
> in digest mode.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

From damailings at mcbf.net  Fri Jun  6 20:44:35 2008
From: damailings at mcbf.net (David Mohr)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:44:35 -0600
Subject: How can a new guy get into dev?
In-Reply-To: <48497661.3040205@gmail.com>
References: <48497661.3040205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <472d4b250806061144l71d5099bo600eba2c3e3b2bec@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Logan <mrbojangles3 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all
> I am a 2nd year cs major, I am interested in linux development and i am
> wondering what the best way to get my foot in the door so to speak. I
> have knowledge of java, a little C and C# and good knowledge of python.
> but my experience seems to be in the educational side of the language,
> like how to make arrays and exercises like data structures. I would like
> to develop for xfce. can anyone offer tips, development environments,
> languages to learn, even  how to get started. i get the dev mailing list
> in digest mode.

Since xfce is based on the gtk+ toolkit, it would probably be helpful
for you to look into some gtk tutorials.

One way I found very good to get started is to look at some smaller
program (i.e. a plugin like samuel suggested) and to try to add a
small feature to it. For me it's easier to modify something in the
beginning than to start from scratch, but of couse YMMV.

~David

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Fri Jun  6 20:58:06 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:58:06 -0700
Subject: How can a new guy get into dev?
In-Reply-To: <48497661.3040205@gmail.com>
References: <48497661.3040205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484988BE.1040804@cornell.edu>

Logan wrote:
> Hello all
> I am a 2nd year cs major, I am interested in linux development and i am 
> wondering what the best way to get my foot in the door so to speak. I 
> have knowledge of java, a little C and C# and good knowledge of python. 
> but my experience seems to be in the educational side of the language, 
> like how to make arrays and exercises like data structures. I would like 
> to develop for xfce. can anyone offer tips, development environments, 
> languages to learn, even  how to get started. i get the dev mailing list 
> in digest mode.

Xfce is written in C.  We use the GTK UI toolkit, which is based on 
GObject, which is an object-oriented system for C.  You'll want to read 
up on both of these (check out library.gnome.org for docs).

As for getting started, you really have 2 main options:

1.  Figure out what you think is missing or what Xfce could use, and 
implement it.  If you have a concrete idea in mind that touches existing 
code, this is the place to ask about how things work.

2.  Look through our bug tracker and try to find something interesting 
(whether it's a bug or feature request) and work on it.

	-b

From noik00 at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 03:48:30 2008
From: noik00 at gmail.com (Kees Scherpenhuijzen)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:48:30 +0200
Subject: How can a new guy get into dev?
Message-ID: <4849e8f4.09a1660a.38ba.6c16@mx.google.com>

Heyy,

Sorry if i'm not conform to the mailinglist posting(first time trying to post away from home), but for a little while now i'm working on a project from school. This project also involves working with thunar( a plugin like was suggested). 

But when i try to ask something to the mailinglist and i am very clear, if i tell what i am doing and tell everything i've tried. I get response. .... But then i'm not that familiar with a developers community 

Kees

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>
Verzonden: vrijdag 6 juni 2008 20:58
Aan: XFCE4 development list <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>
Onderwerp: Re: How can a new guy get into dev?

Logan wrote:
> Hello all
> I am a 2nd year cs major, I am interested in linux development and i am 
> wondering what the best way to get my foot in the door so to speak. I 
> have knowledge of java, a little C and C# and good knowledge of python. 
> but my experience seems to be in the educational side of the language, 
> like how to make arrays and exercises like data structures. I would like 
> to develop for xfce. can anyone offer tips, development environments, 
> languages to learn, even  how to get started. i get the dev mailing list 
> in digest mode.

Xfce is written in C.  We use the GTK UI toolkit, which is based on 
GObject, which is an object-oriented system for C.  You'll want to read 
up on both of these (check out library.gnome.org for docs).

As for getting started, you really have 2 main options:

1.  Figure out what you think is missing or what Xfce could use, and 
implement it.  If you have a concrete idea in mind that touches existing 
code, this is the place to ask about how things work.

2.  Look through our bug tracker and try to find something interesting 
(whether it's a bug or feature request) and work on it.

	-b
_______________________________________________


[Het originele bericht is niet volledig opgenomen]

From colin at colino.net  Sun Jun  8 20:33:12 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:33:12 +0200
Subject: exo-mount & handling of LUKS-encrypted volumes
Message-ID: <20080608203312.38abf014@jack>

Hello there,

I've put up patches against bug 3349,
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3349

I'd love to see them reviewed/applied :)

-- 
Colin
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From corsac at debian.org  Mon Jun  9 08:12:55 2008
From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:12:55 +0200
Subject: exo-mount & handling of LUKS-encrypted volumes
In-Reply-To: <20080608203312.38abf014@jack>
References: <20080608203312.38abf014@jack>
Message-ID: <1212991975.3177.6.camel@fitz.corsac.net>

On dim, 2008-06-08 at 20:33 +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:
> Hello there,
> 
> I've put up patches against bug 3349,
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3349
> 
> I'd love to see them reviewed/applied :)

It'll be done this week :) (but I'd love to have upstream comments on it
before integrating them in Debian.

Cheers,
-- 
Yves-Alexis Perez

From colin at colino.net  Mon Jun  9 08:34:28 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:34:28 +0200
Subject: exo-mount & handling of LUKS-encrypted volumes
In-Reply-To: <1212991975.3177.6.camel@fitz.corsac.net>
References: <20080608203312.38abf014@jack>
	<1212991975.3177.6.camel@fitz.corsac.net>
Message-ID: <20080609083428.0a6398a1@paperstreet.colino.net>

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:12:55 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

Hi,

> > I'd love to see them reviewed/applied :)  
> 
> It'll be done this week :) (but I'd love to have upstream comments on
> it before integrating them in Debian.

Yes, me too :)

-- 
Colin

From colin at colino.net  Mon Jun  9 08:43:56 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:43:56 +0200
Subject: exo-mount & handling of LUKS-encrypted volumes
In-Reply-To: <20080609083428.0a6398a1@paperstreet.colino.net>
References: <20080608203312.38abf014@jack>
	<1212991975.3177.6.camel@fitz.corsac.net>
	<20080609083428.0a6398a1@paperstreet.colino.net>
Message-ID: <20080609084356.2be8ecd8@paperstreet.colino.net>

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:34:28 +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:

Hi,

> > > I'd love to see them reviewed/applied :)    
> > 
> > It'll be done this week :) (but I'd love to have upstream comments
> > on it before integrating them in Debian.  
> 
> Yes, me too :)

Especially since we know that Benny is still alive ;-)

-- 
Colin

From jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 09:05:54 2008
From: jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Guelfucci?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:05:54 +0200
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
Message-ID: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I would like to add a new default keybinding to
http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/xfce-mcs-plugins/trunk/plugins/keyboard_plugin/default.xml
to have the PrtScrn key working with xfce4-screenshooter-plugin. I've
added an executable to the plugin which makes possible to take
screenshots of the desktop and of the active window with a command
line.

I suggest the following keybindings:

PrtScreen -> launch xfce4-screenshooter
Alt + PrtScreen -> launch xfce4-screenshooter -w

I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
installing another plugin.

Thank you in advance,

J?r?me

From stephan at xfce.org  Mon Jun  9 09:55:00 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:55:00 +0200
Subject: [keyboard-shortcuts] Using xfconf to manage kb-shortcuts.
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806090055u69844f74jda96634ab0fa0533@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have been thinking about configuring the keyboard-shortcuts using
xfconf, instead of separate shortcuts files. (key-value-format for
xfwm4 and xml for the kb-shortcuts). Olivier proposed this as a
possible solution for fixing the shortcuts-conflicts on IRC.

The format we could use for this is as followed, please tell me what you think.

-
Stephan

-------------------------------------------------
Channel-Name: xfce4-kb-shortcuts

Properties:

Name: /Alt/Tab
Type: Array
Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-windows"}

Name: /Alt/F2
Type: Array
Value: {"execute", "xfrun"}

Name: /Ctrl/F1
Type: Array
Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-ws-1")

Name: /Alt+Ctrl/Delete
Type: Array
Value: {"execute", "xlock"}

Name: /Alt+Ctrl+Shift/RightArrow
Type: Array
Value: {"xfwm4", "move-window-right"}

From rcoacci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 13:18:12 2008
From: rcoacci at gmail.com (Rodrigo Coacci)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:18:12 -0300
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b39c97d70806090418r12bccc27hc7d380ee49524136@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:05 AM, J?r?me Guelfucci <jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to add a new default keybinding to
>
> http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/xfce-mcs-plugins/trunk/plugins/keyboard_plugin/default.xml
> to have the PrtScrn key working with xfce4-screenshooter-plugin. I've
> added an executable to the plugin which makes possible to take
> screenshots of the desktop and of the active window with a command
> line.
>
> I suggest the following keybindings:
>
> PrtScreen -> launch xfce4-screenshooter
> Alt + PrtScreen -> launch xfce4-screenshooter -w
>
> I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
> can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
> installing another plugin.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> J?r?me
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev


+1

-- 
Abra?os,
Rodrigo

A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
~Linus Torvalds
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From jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 17:43:52 2008
From: jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Guelfucci?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:43:52 +0200
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
Message-ID: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Bug http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 has a patch that has
been waiting for review for more than 2 years. I could not test this
patch against trunk because I've some build issues with plain trunk,
but I tested it against xfce4-session 4.4.2 and it works pretty fine.

If I understand correctly this patch is interesting because it removes
some duplicated code and makes the code lighter.

Thanks to the one that will find some time to review this,

J?r?me

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Mon Jun  9 20:00:10 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:00:10 -0700
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>

J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:

> I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
> can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
> installing another plugin.

No, definitely not.  The goal here should be to make xfce-utils as small 
as possible, not bloat it with stuff people may not need.  I'd be in 
favor of patches that push us toward completely eliminating xfce-utils, 
not things that make it larger.

	-brian

From jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 20:18:48 2008
From: jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Guelfucci?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:18:48 +0200
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
> J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:
>
>> I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
>> can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
>> installing another plugin.
>
> No, definitely not.  The goal here should be to make xfce-utils as small
> as possible, not bloat it with stuff people may not need.  I'd be in
> favor of patches that push us toward completely eliminating xfce-utils,
> not things that make it larger.
>
>        -brian
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev

Sorry, I did not know about this plan. I only proposed this because I
saw that "little applications" giving interesting features like xfrun
and xfce-about are part of this package. However, I still think that
the PrtScreen keybinding should work by default, even if xfce-utils is
not the solution

J?r?me

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Mon Jun  9 20:23:08 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:23:08 -0700
Subject: [keyboard-shortcuts] Using xfconf to manage kb-shortcuts.
In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0806090055u69844f74jda96634ab0fa0533@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74b8614e0806090055u69844f74jda96634ab0fa0533@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484D750C.1050803@cornell.edu>

Stephan Arts wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been thinking about configuring the keyboard-shortcuts using
> xfconf, instead of separate shortcuts files. (key-value-format for
> xfwm4 and xml for the kb-shortcuts). Olivier proposed this as a
> possible solution for fixing the shortcuts-conflicts on IRC.

Hmm, that's an interesting idea...

> The format we could use for this is as followed, please tell me what you think.
 >
> Name: /Alt/Tab
> Type: Array
> Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-windows"}
> 
> Name: /Alt/F2
> Type: Array
> Value: {"execute", "xfrun"}
> 
> Name: /Ctrl/F1
> Type: Array
> Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-ws-1")
> 
> Name: /Alt+Ctrl/Delete
> Type: Array
> Value: {"execute", "xlock"}
> 
> Name: /Alt+Ctrl+Shift/RightArrow
> Type: Array
> Value: {"xfwm4", "move-window-right"}

I kinda like this, but I'm a little afraid about the modifier names -- 
we'd have to standardize on a strict order to make things not a mess, 
and there's no way to enforce it (other than people just having no idea 
what's going on when it doesn't work.

Also note that '+' is not a valid xfconf property name character.

If you intend to use keynames, please use either the GDK keysym names 
(with the GDK_ prefix stripped off), or X keysym names (with whatever 
the prefix is stripped off).

	-b

From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 20:49:06 2008
From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:49:06 +0200
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>
	<c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bc122a250806091149r11095ee4wc6a16ce56b05284f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, J?r?me Guelfucci
<jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
>> J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:
>>
>>> I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
>>> can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
>>> installing another plugin.
>>
>> No, definitely not.  The goal here should be to make xfce-utils as small
>> as possible, not bloat it with stuff people may not need.  I'd be in
>> favor of patches that push us toward completely eliminating xfce-utils,
>> not things that make it larger.
>>
>>        -brian
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>
> Sorry, I did not know about this plan. I only proposed this because I
> saw that "little applications" giving interesting features like xfrun
> and xfce-about are part of this package. However, I still think that
> the PrtScreen keybinding should work by default, even if xfce-utils is
> not the solution

just kill the PrtScreen button, no one uses it anyway... seriously, i
don't think enabling the print screen button will help the faq getting
any shorter (except that we will be able to simplify the faq entry for
screenshots)... Over the years I've told a lot of users they can use
the PrtScreen button on that other operating system... they didn't
know ;) no one even remembers that old thing there on the left upper
corner of the keyboard... it's out of reach i guess ;) (maybe our
fingers got shorter due to darwin)

anyway... i guess that makes me agree with brian. If anything, the
screenshooter plugin should provide the printscreen button
capturing...
And making the screenshooter plugin installed and enabled by default
is a distro's job... not one for xfce


>
> J?r?me
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev

From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 20:50:49 2008
From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:50:49 +0200
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
In-Reply-To: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bc122a250806091150y5c40f3eas43d082e957745fbb@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM, J?r?me Guelfucci
<jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Bug http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 has a patch that has
> been waiting for review for more than 2 years. I could not test this
> patch against trunk because I've some build issues with plain trunk,
> but I tested it against xfce4-session 4.4.2 and it works pretty fine.
>
> If I understand correctly this patch is interesting because it removes
> some duplicated code and makes the code lighter.
>
> Thanks to the one that will find some time to review this,
>
> J?r?me
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev

patch was made by jani... so i guess it's on the ignore list ;)

From cody-somerville at ubuntu.com  Mon Jun  9 21:01:49 2008
From: cody-somerville at ubuntu.com (Cody A.W. Somerville)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:01:49 -0300
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
In-Reply-To: <bc122a250806091150y5c40f3eas43d082e957745fbb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc122a250806091150y5c40f3eas43d082e957745fbb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:50 PM, samuel <samuel.verstraete at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM, J?r?me Guelfucci
> <jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Bug http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 has a patch that has
> > been waiting for review for more than 2 years. I could not test this
> > patch against trunk because I've some build issues with plain trunk,
> > but I tested it against xfce4-session 4.4.2 and it works pretty fine.
>

<snip>


>
>
> patch was made by jani... so i guess it's on the ignore list ;)
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

I don't think that sort of attitude is conducive to forming positive and
mutually beneficial relationships. It seems pretty low to reject or ignore
*work* which is of benefit because of who wrote it when Xfce4 struggles so
openly with a lack of man power. As I'm sure Jani reads this list, maybe you
could offer him an apology for being so rude?

Cheers,

-- 
Cody A.W. Somerville
Software Engineer
Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc.
Office: 506-458-1290
Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699
Fax: 506-453-9112
Cell: 506-449-5899
Email: cody at redcow.ca
http://www.redcow.ca
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From jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 21:06:10 2008
From: jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Guelfucci?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:06:10 +0200
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
In-Reply-To: <cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc122a250806091150y5c40f3eas43d082e957745fbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c98f84f80806091206y4ed8f629hb34032df0d05e68f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
<cody-somerville at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:50 PM, samuel <samuel.verstraete at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM, J?r?me Guelfucci
>> <jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Bug http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446 has a patch that has
>> > been waiting for review for more than 2 years. I could not test this
>> > patch against trunk because I've some build issues with plain trunk,
>> > but I tested it against xfce4-session 4.4.2 and it works pretty fine.
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>>
>> patch was made by jani... so i guess it's on the ignore list ;)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>
> I don't think that sort of attitude is conducive to forming positive and
> mutually beneficial relationships. It seems pretty low to reject or ignore
> *work* which is of benefit because of who wrote it when Xfce4 struggles so
> openly with a lack of man power. As I'm sure Jani reads this list, maybe you
> could offer him an apology for being so rude?
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Cody A.W. Somerville
> Software Engineer
> Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc.
> Office: 506-458-1290
> Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699
> Fax: 506-453-9112
> Cell: 506-449-5899
> Email: cody at redcow.ca
> http://www.redcow.ca
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

I personnally don't care about who wrote the patch, I don't like him
particularly (to say the least), but this patch looks ok to me because
it reduces the duplication of code between the different xfce
components. But if you think this patch can't be applied, then I can't
do anything, I was just suggesting it...

J?r?me

From rcoacci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 21:06:46 2008
From: rcoacci at gmail.com (Rodrigo Coacci)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:06:46 -0300
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
In-Reply-To: <cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc122a250806091150y5c40f3eas43d082e957745fbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b39c97d70806091206k59834e24u6f0e5a987182ac65@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville <
cody-somerville at ubuntu.com> wrote:

>
> <snip>
> I don't think that sort of attitude is conducive to forming positive and
> mutually beneficial relationships. It seems pretty low to reject or ignore
> *work* which is of benefit because of who wrote it when Xfce4 struggles so
> openly with a lack of man power. As I'm sure Jani reads this list, maybe you
> could offer him an apology for being so rude?
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Cody A.W. Somerville
> Software Engineer
> Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc.
> Office: 506-458-1290
> Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699
> Fax: 506-453-9112
> Cell: 506-449-5899
> Email: cody at redcow.ca
> http://www.redcow.ca
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

I guess he was making a joke, for AFAIK Jani is (was?) one of the main xfce
devs...


-- 
Cheers,
Rodrigo

A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
~Linus Torvalds
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From stephan at xfce.org  Mon Jun  9 21:08:20 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:08:20 +0200
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
In-Reply-To: <b39c97d70806091206k59834e24u6f0e5a987182ac65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Rodrigo Coacci <rcoacci at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
> <cody-somerville at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> I don't think that sort of attitude is conducive to forming positive and
>> mutually beneficial relationships. It seems pretty low to reject or ignore
>> *work* which is of benefit because of who wrote it when Xfce4 struggles so
>> openly with a lack of man power. As I'm sure Jani reads this list, maybe you
>> could offer him an apology for being so rude?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> --
>> Cody A.W. Somerville
>> Software Engineer
>> Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc.
>> Office: 506-458-1290
>> Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699
>> Fax: 506-453-9112
>> Cell: 506-449-5899
>> Email: cody at redcow.ca
>> http://www.redcow.ca
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>
> I guess he was making a joke, for AFAIK Jani is (was?) one of the main xfce
> devs...

That's what HE thought...

-
Stephan

From jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 21:08:30 2008
From: jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Guelfucci?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:08:30 +0200
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <bc122a250806091149r11095ee4wc6a16ce56b05284f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>
	<c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:49 PM, samuel <samuel.verstraete at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, J?r?me Guelfucci
> <jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
>>> J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
>>>> can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
>>>> installing another plugin.
>>>
>>> No, definitely not.  The goal here should be to make xfce-utils as small
>>> as possible, not bloat it with stuff people may not need.  I'd be in
>>> favor of patches that push us toward completely eliminating xfce-utils,
>>> not things that make it larger.
>>>
>>>        -brian
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>>
>> Sorry, I did not know about this plan. I only proposed this because I
>> saw that "little applications" giving interesting features like xfrun
>> and xfce-about are part of this package. However, I still think that
>> the PrtScreen keybinding should work by default, even if xfce-utils is
>> not the solution
>
> just kill the PrtScreen button, no one uses it anyway... seriously, i
> don't think enabling the print screen button will help the faq getting
> any shorter (except that we will be able to simplify the faq entry for
> screenshots)... Over the years I've told a lot of users they can use
> the PrtScreen button on that other operating system... they didn't
> know ;) no one even remembers that old thing there on the left upper
> corner of the keyboard... it's out of reach i guess ;) (maybe our
> fingers got shorter due to darwin)
>
> anyway... i guess that makes me agree with brian. If anything, the
> screenshooter plugin should provide the printscreen button
> capturing...
> And making the screenshooter plugin installed and enabled by default
> is a distro's job... not one for xfce
>
>
>>
>> J?r?me
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

Ok, you convinced me ! So, let's forget the last paragraph of my first
mail and just focus on the keybinding thing.

Can I submit a patch to add the screenshooter to the list of
keybindings ? Or there is a better way of doing this ?

J?r?me

From rcoacci at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 21:13:31 2008
From: rcoacci at gmail.com (Rodrigo Coacci)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:13:31 -0300
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0806091208r7f8aa18eu2251af307503624a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc122a250806091150y5c40f3eas43d082e957745fbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <b39c97d70806091213u1fd56f8ar708f9625721a8441@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Rodrigo Coacci <rcoacci at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
> > <cody-somerville at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >> I don't think that sort of attitude is conducive to forming positive and
> >> mutually beneficial relationships. It seems pretty low to reject or
> ignore
> >> *work* which is of benefit because of who wrote it when Xfce4 struggles
> so
> >> openly with a lack of man power. As I'm sure Jani reads this list, maybe
> you
> >> could offer him an apology for being so rude?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cody A.W. Somerville
> >> Software Engineer
> >> Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc.
> >> Office: 506-458-1290
> >> Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699
> >> Fax: 506-453-9112
> >> Cell: 506-449-5899
> >> Email: cody at redcow.ca
> >> http://www.redcow.ca
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> >> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> >> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
> >
> > I guess he was making a joke, for AFAIK Jani is (was?) one of the main
> xfce
> > devs...
>
> That's what HE thought...
>
> -
> Stephan
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

Well, in that case, sorry, maybe I should hang out on IRC more..... ;-)

-- 
Cheers,
Rodrigo

A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
~Linus Torvalds
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From samuel.verstraete at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 21:16:33 2008
From: samuel.verstraete at gmail.com (samuel)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:16:33 +0200
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Rodrigo Coacci <rcoacci at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Rodrigo Coacci <rcoacci at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville
>> > <cody-somerville at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <snip>
>> >> I don't think that sort of attitude is conducive to forming positive
>> >> and
>> >> mutually beneficial relationships. It seems pretty low to reject or
>> >> ignore
>> >> *work* which is of benefit because of who wrote it when Xfce4 struggles
>> >> so
>> >> openly with a lack of man power. As I'm sure Jani reads this list,
>> >> maybe you
>> >> could offer him an apology for being so rude?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cody A.W. Somerville
>> >> Software Engineer
>> >> Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc.
>> >> Office: 506-458-1290
>> >> Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699
>> >> Fax: 506-453-9112
>> >> Cell: 506-449-5899
>> >> Email: cody at redcow.ca
>> >> http://www.redcow.ca
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> >> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> >> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>> >
>> > I guess he was making a joke, for AFAIK Jani is (was?) one of the main
>> > xfce
>> > devs...
>>
>> That's what HE thought...
>>
>> -
>> Stephan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>
> Well, in that case, sorry, maybe I should hang out on IRC more..... ;-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Rodrigo

maybe i should have added some smiley or something... but i was in
fact joking... i don't know why the patch wasn't picked up... but it
sure wasn't because jani made it... i think
;)

>
> A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
> windows.
> ~Linus Torvalds
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Mon Jun  9 21:50:53 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:50:53 -0700
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <c98f84f80806091208n38c02a5eg5a56e585301b7435@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>	<484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>	<c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>	<bc122a250806091149r11095ee4wc6a16ce56b05284f@mail.gmail.com>
	<c98f84f80806091208n38c02a5eg5a56e585301b7435@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484D899D.5030801@cornell.edu>

J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:49 PM, samuel <samuel.verstraete at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, J?r?me Guelfucci
>> <jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
>>>> J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
>>>>> can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
>>>>> installing another plugin.
>>>> No, definitely not.  The goal here should be to make xfce-utils as small
>>>> as possible, not bloat it with stuff people may not need.  I'd be in
>>>> favor of patches that push us toward completely eliminating xfce-utils,
>>>> not things that make it larger.
 >>>
>>> Sorry, I did not know about this plan. I only proposed this because I
>>> saw that "little applications" giving interesting features like xfrun
>>> and xfce-about are part of this package. However, I still think that
>>> the PrtScreen keybinding should work by default, even if xfce-utils is
>>> not the solution
>> just kill the PrtScreen button, no one uses it anyway... seriously, i
>> don't think enabling the print screen button will help the faq getting
>> any shorter (except that we will be able to simplify the faq entry for
>> screenshots)... Over the years I've told a lot of users they can use
>> the PrtScreen button on that other operating system... they didn't
>> know ;) no one even remembers that old thing there on the left upper
>> corner of the keyboard... it's out of reach i guess ;) (maybe our
>> fingers got shorter due to darwin)
>>
>> anyway... i guess that makes me agree with brian. If anything, the
>> screenshooter plugin should provide the printscreen button
>> capturing...
>> And making the screenshooter plugin installed and enabled by default
>> is a distro's job... not one for xfce
> 
> Ok, you convinced me ! So, let's forget the last paragraph of my first
> mail and just focus on the keybinding thing.
> 
> Can I submit a patch to add the screenshooter to the list of
> keybindings ? Or there is a better way of doing this ?

Let's see where Stephan's new keybindings proposal goes.  Statically 
adding keybindings for apps that may or may not be installed sounds like 
it might not be the best idea.  Using xfconf for these sorts of things 
in a generic way that any app can set seems like a better plan.

	-brian


From christian at twotoasts.de  Mon Jun  9 21:38:15 2008
From: christian at twotoasts.de (Christian Dywan)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:38:15 +0200
Subject: [keyboard-shortcuts] Using xfconf to manage kb-shortcuts.
In-Reply-To: <484D750C.1050803@cornell.edu>
References: <74b8614e0806090055u69844f74jda96634ab0fa0533@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D750C.1050803@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <20080609213815.5ef098e2@twotoasts.de>

Am Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:23:08 -0700
schrieb "Brian J. Tarricone" <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:

> Stephan Arts wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have been thinking about configuring the keyboard-shortcuts using
> > xfconf, instead of separate shortcuts files. (key-value-format for
> > xfwm4 and xml for the kb-shortcuts). Olivier proposed this as a
> > possible solution for fixing the shortcuts-conflicts on IRC.
> 
> Hmm, that's an interesting idea...
> 
> > The format we could use for this is as followed, please tell me
> > what you think.
>  >
> > Name: /Alt/Tab
> > Type: Array
> > Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-windows"}
> > 
> > Name: /Alt/F2
> > Type: Array
> > Value: {"execute", "xfrun"}
> > 
> > Name: /Ctrl/F1
> > Type: Array
> > Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-ws-1")
> > 
> > Name: /Alt+Ctrl/Delete
> > Type: Array
> > Value: {"execute", "xlock"}
> > 
> > Name: /Alt+Ctrl+Shift/RightArrow
> > Type: Array
> > Value: {"xfwm4", "move-window-right"}
> 
> I kinda like this, but I'm a little afraid about the modifier names
> -- we'd have to standardize on a strict order to make things not a
> mess, and there's no way to enforce it (other than people just having
> no idea what's going on when it doesn't work.
> 
> Also note that '+' is not a valid xfconf property name character.
> 
> If you intend to use keynames, please use either the GDK keysym names 
> (with the GDK_ prefix stripped off), or X keysym names (with whatever 
> the prefix is stripped off).

Why not use Gtk's accelerator format:

<Shift><Control>w

It's readable and can easily be used in code without custom handling.

Yours,
     Christian

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Mon Jun  9 22:15:58 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:15:58 -0700
Subject: [keyboard-shortcuts] Using xfconf to manage kb-shortcuts.
In-Reply-To: <20080609213815.5ef098e2@twotoasts.de>
References: <74b8614e0806090055u69844f74jda96634ab0fa0533@mail.gmail.com>	<484D750C.1050803@cornell.edu>
	<20080609213815.5ef098e2@twotoasts.de>
Message-ID: <484D8F7E.6000007@cornell.edu>

Christian Dywan wrote:
> Am Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:23:08 -0700
> schrieb "Brian J. Tarricone" <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:
> 
>> Stephan Arts wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have been thinking about configuring the keyboard-shortcuts using
>>> xfconf, instead of separate shortcuts files. (key-value-format for
>>> xfwm4 and xml for the kb-shortcuts). Olivier proposed this as a
>>> possible solution for fixing the shortcuts-conflicts on IRC.
>> Hmm, that's an interesting idea...
>>
>>> The format we could use for this is as followed, please tell me
>>> what you think.
>>  >
>>> Name: /Alt/Tab
>>> Type: Array
>>> Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-windows"}
>>>
>>> Name: /Alt/F2
>>> Type: Array
>>> Value: {"execute", "xfrun"}
>>>
>>> Name: /Ctrl/F1
>>> Type: Array
>>> Value: {"xfwm4", "switch-ws-1")
>>>
>>> Name: /Alt+Ctrl/Delete
>>> Type: Array
>>> Value: {"execute", "xlock"}
>>>
>>> Name: /Alt+Ctrl+Shift/RightArrow
>>> Type: Array
>>> Value: {"xfwm4", "move-window-right"}
>> I kinda like this, but I'm a little afraid about the modifier names
>> -- we'd have to standardize on a strict order to make things not a
>> mess, and there's no way to enforce it (other than people just having
>> no idea what's going on when it doesn't work.
>>
>> Also note that '+' is not a valid xfconf property name character.
>>
>> If you intend to use keynames, please use either the GDK keysym names 
>> (with the GDK_ prefix stripped off), or X keysym names (with whatever 
>> the prefix is stripped off).
> 
> Why not use Gtk's accelerator format:
> 
> <Shift><Control>w
> 
> It's readable and can easily be used in code without custom handling.

I think you're missing the point...  And '<' and '>' aren't valid xfconf 
property names either.

	-b


From rcoacci at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 00:29:53 2008
From: rcoacci at gmail.com (Rodrigo Coacci)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:29:53 -0300
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <484D899D.5030801@cornell.edu>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>
	<c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc122a250806091149r11095ee4wc6a16ce56b05284f@mail.gmail.com>
	<c98f84f80806091208n38c02a5eg5a56e585301b7435@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D899D.5030801@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <b39c97d70806091529n37deabd2gc327f9f13e3279c8@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>
wrote:

> J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:49 PM, samuel <samuel.verstraete at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, J?r?me Guelfucci
> >> <jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>> J?r?me Guelfucci wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I also propose to add the executable code to xfce-utils, so that one
> >>>>> can take screenshots with a default installation of xfce, without
> >>>>> installing another plugin.
> >>>> No, definitely not.  The goal here should be to make xfce-utils as
> small
> >>>> as possible, not bloat it with stuff people may not need.  I'd be in
> >>>> favor of patches that push us toward completely eliminating
> xfce-utils,
> >>>> not things that make it larger.
>  >>>
> >>> Sorry, I did not know about this plan. I only proposed this because I
> >>> saw that "little applications" giving interesting features like xfrun
> >>> and xfce-about are part of this package. However, I still think that
> >>> the PrtScreen keybinding should work by default, even if xfce-utils is
> >>> not the solution
> >> just kill the PrtScreen button, no one uses it anyway... seriously, i
> >> don't think enabling the print screen button will help the faq getting
> >> any shorter (except that we will be able to simplify the faq entry for
> >> screenshots)... Over the years I've told a lot of users they can use
> >> the PrtScreen button on that other operating system... they didn't
> >> know ;) no one even remembers that old thing there on the left upper
> >> corner of the keyboard... it's out of reach i guess ;) (maybe our
> >> fingers got shorter due to darwin)
> >>
> >> anyway... i guess that makes me agree with brian. If anything, the
> >> screenshooter plugin should provide the printscreen button
> >> capturing...
> >> And making the screenshooter plugin installed and enabled by default
> >> is a distro's job... not one for xfce
> >
> > Ok, you convinced me ! So, let's forget the last paragraph of my first
> > mail and just focus on the keybinding thing.
> >
> > Can I submit a patch to add the screenshooter to the list of
> > keybindings ? Or there is a better way of doing this ?
>
> Let's see where Stephan's new keybindings proposal goes.  Statically
> adding keybindings for apps that may or may not be installed sounds like
> it might not be the best idea.  Using xfconf for these sorts of things
> in a generic way that any app can set seems like a better plan.
>
>        -brian
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>

BTW, I just found out it doesn't work(setting the keybinding), at least on
my system. Apparently calling the executable from command-line has no
effect, which is expected if you think that is a panel plugin.... Or am I
missing something?

-- 
Cheers,
Rodrigo

A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
windows.
~Linus Torvalds
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From corsac at debian.org  Tue Jun 10 06:49:02 2008
From: corsac at debian.org (Yves-Alexis Perez)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:49:02 +0200
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <484D899D.5030801@cornell.edu>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>
	<c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc122a250806091149r11095ee4wc6a16ce56b05284f@mail.gmail.com>
	<c98f84f80806091208n38c02a5eg5a56e585301b7435@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D899D.5030801@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <1213073342.4085.11.camel@hidalgo>

On lun, 2008-06-09 at 12:50 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> Let's see where Stephan's new keybindings proposal goes.  Statically 
> adding keybindings for apps that may or may not be installed sounds
> like 
> it might not be the best idea.  Using xfconf for these sorts of
> things 
> in a generic way that any app can set seems like a better plan.

Maybe apps can add keybindings at installation time, providing (for
example) a keybinding files. Or we (as packager) may run in postinst
some xfconf stuff to add those keybindings for all users. That sounds
like something we can do.

Cheers,
-- 
Yves-Alexis
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From botsie at xfce.org  Tue Jun 10 07:15:30 2008
From: botsie at xfce.org (Biju Chacko)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:45:30 +0530
Subject: patch for xfce4-session waiting for review
In-Reply-To: <cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090843u248124edn68acf97b3041f4e4@mail.gmail.com>	<bc122a250806091150y5c40f3eas43d082e957745fbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<cedaa6d20806091201v41c14768gf70e5fcd6ed9be8c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484E0DF2.1070205@xfce.org>

Cody A.W. Somerville wrote:
> 
> I don't think that sort of attitude is conducive to forming positive and 
> mutually beneficial relationships. It seems pretty low to reject or 
> ignore *work* which is of benefit because of who wrote it when Xfce4 
> struggles so openly with a lack of man power. As I'm sure Jani reads 
> this list, maybe you could offer him an apology for being so rude?

Personally, I always thought it was a good thing that a distro dev tried 
to co-ordinate with upstream. We see too little of that IMHO. 
Admittedly, there was some amount of friction -- but heck, that happens 
within the dev team occasionally too!

OTOH, you gotta get used to people being mean on mailing lists -- 
especially on the Xfce lists where a lot of people don't speak English 
natively and may inadvertently be rude. Shit happens -- get used to it. :-)

IAC, good to see you here Cody -- I hope it'll ensure that Xubuntu will 
continue to be one of the better options for people who want to use Xfce.

-- b





From jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 08:33:04 2008
From: jerome.guelfucci at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Guelfucci?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:33:04 +0200
Subject: add default keybinding for screenshooter in keyboard plugin
In-Reply-To: <b39c97d70806091529n37deabd2gc327f9f13e3279c8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c98f84f80806090005w2e066abft67385e9a8b99eef2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D6FAA.6090209@cornell.edu>
	<c98f84f80806091118j67a119fbr3bc1904ea33c4fe9@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc122a250806091149r11095ee4wc6a16ce56b05284f@mail.gmail.com>
	<c98f84f80806091208n38c02a5eg5a56e585301b7435@mail.gmail.com>
	<484D899D.5030801@cornell.edu>
	<b39c97d70806091529n37deabd2gc327f9f13e3279c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c98f84f80806092333h119ea2dbw6dccb43f5b670a53@mail.gmail.com>

> BTW, I just found out it doesn't work(setting the keybinding), at least on
> my system. Apparently calling the executable from command-line has no
> effect, which is expected if you think that is a panel plugin.... Or am I
> missing something?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Rodrigo
>
> A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
> windows.
> ~Linus Torvalds
> _______________________________________________

Please test with latest trunk and file a bug if something does not work.

Thank you !

J?r?me

From colin at colino.net  Fri Jun 13 16:02:23 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:02:23 +0200
Subject: I would like to get an SVN account
Message-ID: <20080613160223.295c10a9@paperstreet.colino.net>

Hello,

I'm writing because I'd love to get an SVN account to svn.xfce.org. 
I'm asking because it seems I'm doing more patches than I initially
thought I'd do for some Xfce components, and they sometimes linger in
Bugzilla even after getting positive review (generally on the IRC
channel), the most often because of the passing time that passes too
fast for developers to have enough :)

I'm quite used to C, GTK+ and SVN itself, tend to respect others'
coding style and am generally careful in not commiting random things.

You can see some of my work on Xfce Bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2712
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3061
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3900
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3913
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3994
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4118
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3349

The rest of it is mainly visible in Claws Mail's code, which is my
primary project. I don't intend to become a full-(spare)-time hacker on
Xfce, but I think I can provide a bit of help from time to time.

Thanks,
-- 
Colin
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From alexander.toresson at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 16:06:05 2008
From: alexander.toresson at gmail.com (Alexander Toresson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:06:05 +0200
Subject: I would like to get an SVN account
In-Reply-To: <20080613160223.295c10a9@paperstreet.colino.net>
References: <20080613160223.295c10a9@paperstreet.colino.net>
Message-ID: <b33ba6660806130706v53990652v34b2ca8770f6340d@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Colin Leroy <colin at colino.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm writing because I'd love to get an SVN account to svn.xfce.org.
> I'm asking because it seems I'm doing more patches than I initially
> thought I'd do for some Xfce components, and they sometimes linger in
> Bugzilla even after getting positive review (generally on the IRC
> channel), the most often because of the passing time that passes too
> fast for developers to have enough :)
>
> I'm quite used to C, GTK+ and SVN itself, tend to respect others'
> coding style and am generally careful in not commiting random things.
>
> You can see some of my work on Xfce Bugzilla:
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2712
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3061
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3900
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3913
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3994
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4118
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3349
>
> The rest of it is mainly visible in Claws Mail's code, which is my
> primary project. I don't intend to become a full-(spare)-time hacker on
> Xfce, but I think I can provide a bit of help from time to time.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Colin
>

Please ask for this through https://foo-projects.org/node/3?q=node/3 .

// Alexander

From colin at colino.net  Fri Jun 13 16:34:11 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:34:11 +0200
Subject: I would like to get an SVN account
In-Reply-To: <b33ba6660806130706v53990652v34b2ca8770f6340d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080613160223.295c10a9@paperstreet.colino.net>
	<b33ba6660806130706v53990652v34b2ca8770f6340d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080613163411.0bda90dd@paperstreet.colino.net>

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:06:05 +0200, Alexander Toresson wrote:

Hi,

> Please ask for this through https://foo-projects.org/node/3?q=node/3 .

Done, thanks!
-- 
Colin
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From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Fri Jun 13 20:08:28 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:28 -0700
Subject: I would like to get an SVN account
In-Reply-To: <20080613160223.295c10a9@paperstreet.colino.net>
References: <20080613160223.295c10a9@paperstreet.colino.net>
Message-ID: <4852B79C.4010802@cornell.edu>

Colin Leroy wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm writing because I'd love to get an SVN account to svn.xfce.org. 
> I'm asking because it seems I'm doing more patches than I initially
> thought I'd do for some Xfce components, and they sometimes linger in
> Bugzilla even after getting positive review (generally on the IRC
> channel), the most often because of the passing time that passes too
> fast for developers to have enough :)
> 
> I'm quite used to C, GTK+ and SVN itself, tend to respect others'
> coding style and am generally careful in not commiting random things.

Excellent.  Too often I see people catting /dev/urandom into files and 
then committing the result!

Note, though, that getting SVN access isn't a license to commit 
anywhere.  Most (well, maybe about half) of the modules are owned by 
someone, and we have a policy of not committing non-trivial patches to 
other people's modules without asking first.

> You can see some of my work on Xfce Bugzilla:
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2712
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3061
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3900
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3913
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3994
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4118
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3349

That's more patches right there than your average Xfce contributor 
submits...

> The rest of it is mainly visible in Claws Mail's code, which is my
> primary project.

I knew your name sounded familiar...  awesome mail client ^_^.

> I don't intend to become a full-(spare)-time hacker on
> Xfce, but I think I can provide a bit of help from time to time.

I'm ok with this, but we'll need to discuss it among the other core 
devs.  Would you mind popping into #xfce-dev so we can get to know you a 
bit?  Just PM one of us and ask for voice.

	-brian

From colin at colino.net  Fri Jun 13 20:13:06 2008
From: colin at colino.net (Colin Leroy)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:13:06 +0200
Subject: I would like to get an SVN account
In-Reply-To: <4852B79C.4010802@cornell.edu>
References: <20080613160223.295c10a9@paperstreet.colino.net>
	<4852B79C.4010802@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <20080613201306.4aa827ed@jack>

On 13 June 2008 at 11h06, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:

Hi, 

> Note, though, that getting SVN access isn't a license to commit 
> anywhere.  Most (well, maybe about half) of the modules are owned by 
> someone, and we have a policy of not committing non-trivial patches
> to other people's modules without asking first.

Right, I intended to make that clear in my first mail but forgot this
point - I don't plan on commiting anything without asking for
clearance first :)

> I knew your name sounded familiar...  awesome mail client ^_^.

Hehe, thanks :)

-- 
Colin
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From stephan at xfce.org  Sun Jun 15 00:00:44 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:00:44 +0200
Subject: [ANN] libexo xfce_4_4 branch
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806141500w309fe49fw88e96324fa8044ef@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Because xfce-mcs-manager is not going to be available for xfce 4.6,
the preferred-apps-plugin from libexo will be deprecated in favor of a
.desktop file targeting exo-preferred-apps directly.

This change would make libexo trunk incompatible with xfce 4.4.x, and
this is why I asked benny if this is the right occasion to branch it
for 4.4.

Benny agreed and gave me permission to branch libexo and remove the
mcs-plugin from trunk.

So, in light of 'Pinkie', this is what I will do :-)

I hope nobody will be surprised when they see the commit-messages this time. ;-)

-
Stephan

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Fri Jun 20 02:08:32 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:08:32 -0700
Subject: bugs with patches
Message-ID: <485AF500.6050204@cornell.edu>

Hey all,

I was wondering if there was a way to make bugzilla show all open bugs 
that have patches attached to them, and Diego figured it out.  Try this URL:

http://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1

If you want to filter it more, click the edit link on the bottom right 
of the results page, and you can further restrict it by 
product/component, assignee, or whatever.

Ideally we can start going through these and review and apply those that 
would be good to get in for 4.6.

	-brian

From ongardie at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 13:30:05 2008
From: ongardie at gmail.com (Diego Ongaro)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:30:05 +0100
Subject: bugs with patches
In-Reply-To: <485AF500.6050204@cornell.edu>
References: <485AF500.6050204@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <115252780806200430h63d46345wac517cf3840b16a6@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 01:08, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
> [...]
> a way to make bugzilla show all open bugs
> that have patches attached to them
> [...]
> Ideally we can start going through these and review and apply those that
> would be good to get in for 4.6.

Is there anything that non-maintainers wanting to help can do?

From stephan at xfce.org  Sat Jun 21 14:37:27 2008
From: stephan at xfce.org (Stephan Arts)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:37:27 +0200
Subject: Fwd: [Xfce-advocacy] a question about including XFCE in the ig
	desktop meeting of 2009
In-Reply-To: <200806211356.09879.abenito@grupocpd.com>
References: <200806211356.09879.abenito@grupocpd.com>
Message-ID: <74b8614e0806210537l53714e4at5f43240a54ad7a12@mail.gmail.com>

Forwarding to a more active mailing-list: (xfce4-dev)

-
Stephan

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Agust?n Benito Bethencourt <abenito at grupocpd.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Subject: [Xfce-advocacy] a question about including XFCE in the ig
desktop meeting of 2009
To: xfce-advocacy at xfce.org


Hi all,

as you might know, it is planned to celebrate both GUADEC and Akademy together
in 2009. I'm part of the Gran Canaria Desktop Meeting candidature to  host
both events.

I want to know if you have made any movement to add XFCE to that event or, at
least, have presence on it. If we finally host it, I would like to open
conversations with both, GNOME and KDE to have XFCE somehow there.

saludos
--
Agust?n Benito Bethencourt
Grupo CPD
www.grupocpd.com
_______________________________________________
Xfce-advocacy mailing list
Xfce-advocacy at xfce.org
http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-advocacy

From erikharrison at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 19:07:37 2008
From: erikharrison at gmail.com (Erik Harrison)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:07:37 -0400
Subject: [Xfce-advocacy] a question about including XFCE in the ig desktop
	meeting of 2009
In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0806210537l53714e4at5f43240a54ad7a12@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806211356.09879.abenito@grupocpd.com>
	<74b8614e0806210537l53714e4at5f43240a54ad7a12@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5b18a5420806211007m74483765p1cae9af8f20cddbd@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Stephan Arts <stephan at xfce.org> wrote:
> Forwarding to a more active mailing-list: (xfce4-dev)
>
> -
> Stephan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Agust?n Benito Bethencourt <abenito at grupocpd.com>
> Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:56 PM
> Subject: [Xfce-advocacy] a question about including XFCE in the ig
> desktop meeting of 2009
> To: xfce-advocacy at xfce.org
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> as you might know, it is planned to celebrate both GUADEC and Akademy together
> in 2009. I'm part of the Gran Canaria Desktop Meeting candidature to  host
> both events.
>
> I want to know if you have made any movement to add XFCE to that event or, at
> least, have presence on it. If we finally host it, I would like to open
> conversations with both, GNOME and KDE to have XFCE somehow there.

You know, I'd love to go, but the trip for me would be just under a
thousand dollars for the flight, assuming I was able to book a year in
advance.

I'm sure that's true for many of us - we'd love to go, but without
corporate sponsers the price might be excessive. If you're trying to
get one of us to commit to make your candidacy more appealing, perhaps
you could be more concrete about the dates at least?

>
> saludos
> --
> Agust?n Benito Bethencourt
> Grupo CPD
> www.grupocpd.com
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce-advocacy mailing list
> Xfce-advocacy at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce-advocacy
> _______________________________________________
> Xfce4-dev mailing list
> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>



-- 
Erik
"Ooooh, we've got this notion that we'd quite like to sail the ocean."

From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Sun Jun 22 00:12:57 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:12:57 -0700
Subject: Fwd: [Xfce-advocacy] a question about including XFCE in the ig
	desktop meeting of 2009
In-Reply-To: <74b8614e0806210537l53714e4at5f43240a54ad7a12@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806211356.09879.abenito@grupocpd.com>
	<74b8614e0806210537l53714e4at5f43240a54ad7a12@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080621151257.3174478b@kepler>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Agust?n Benito Bethencourt <abenito at grupocpd.com>
> 
> as you might know, it is planned to celebrate both GUADEC and Akademy
> together in 2009. I'm part of the Gran Canaria Desktop Meeting
> candidature to  host both events.
> 
> I want to know if you have made any movement to add XFCE to that
> event or, at least, have presence on it. If we finally host it, I
> would like to open conversations with both, GNOME and KDE to have
> XFCE somehow there.

Seeing as this is the first time I've heard of this event, no, I guess
not ^_^.  Is there an English language version of your site?  My
Spanish is passable, but it'll take me a while to figure it out ^_~.

But I guess I can echo Erik's sentiment: I'd be unlikely to be able to
go without some sort of sponsorship (I'd be traveling from the west
coast of the US).  And even then, I'm not sure of my schedule so far in
advance.  Sounds cool and worthwhile, though.

	-brian

From skimat at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 16:54:47 2008
From: skimat at gmail.com (Kimat Boven)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:54:47 +0200
Subject: show/hide button
In-Reply-To: <162800e10805131849g49b5bdable5c3d93f98e28a8e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <162800e10805120548q48053c9du760c3c2a954c1bb7@mail.gmail.com>
	<48287F1E.9060605@cornell.edu>
	<162800e10805122313j2357d4d6g6634983a8b30b4ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<4829D5D1.8030209@cornell.edu>
	<4abe35490805131145j58fca42rd3dcd33823a1e4dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<162800e10805131849g49b5bdable5c3d93f98e28a8e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3024e1e00806250754o1fec2963lf641dca019674129@mail.gmail.com>

having a hotkey assigned to the panel appearence/disappearence would be a neat.
having for each panel an option to be assigned to a hotkey and also a
selection achievable trough left-right arrows + enter-space. this
would give the possibilty of displaying huge icons of your
applications and selecting their launching trough the keyboard only
a suggestion idea made by me

2008/5/14, joy zhao <yanhwizhao at gmail.com>:
> hi,
>
> In the current panel,  the panel window inherited form XfcePanelWindowClass,
> and in its
> xfce_panel_window_size_allocate routine, priv->resize_func (
> panel_resize_function ) would be called, which would determine panel
> window's position on screen and this routine would be called from time to
> time and prevent a plugin's information of panel moving to another position.
> So if not do certain changed in the panel itself, I don't think a plugin can
> have enough power to implement task to show/hide panel to corner.
>
> I don't intend to push you to use my patch, and further improvement on  it
> is necessary.
>
> My concern is that if panel already has implement the trunk of the
> functionality, why do we have to add a dummy plugin to take the superficial
> responsibility? plugins should do what the panel do not know, like
> displaying a clock, eyes..., but not what the panel knows and already have
> done!  Just we only need a option in panel's customization dialog to toggle
> autohide behavior, instead of a unnecessary plugin to have users the choice
> of deciding panel can autohide or not. If we have to put the main function
> in the panel, why not just provide an option in the customization dialog and
> toggle the existence of the show/hide button?
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 2008/5/13, Brian J. Tarricone <bjt23 at cornell.edu>:
>> > Why is it necessary?  What's wrong with the panel's autohide behavior?
>> >  I feel like this is a niche feature that isn't really a great idea to
>> >  put in the panel proper...  Tho adding a way to allow plugins to change
>> >  autohide behavior might not be a bad idea.
>>
>> It's not up to you to decide whether people should or shouldn't like
>> this feature ;-). My experimental panel already supports hiding
>> sideways (and guest what, it is kinda handy), so it only needs a
>> clever way to control this 'remote'.
>>
>> Nick
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xfce4-dev mailing list
>> Xfce4-dev at xfce.org
>> http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev
>>
>

From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Wed Jun 25 17:53:56 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:53:56 +0200
Subject: libxfcegui4 install error without gladeui
Message-ID: <20080625175356.baa70d83.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

Hi,

I just tried to install libxfcegui4 (make install) and got the
following error:

make[3]: Entering directory
`/home/enrico/src/xfce/libxfcegui4/trunk/glade' make[3]: Nothing to be
done for `install-exec-am'.
test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
test -z "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0"
/bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib/libglade': Permission
denied make[3]: *** [install-libglademoduleLTLIBRARIES] Error 1

There seems to be something wrong with the glade code. I have
installed libglade but prefer to not install gladeui as this requires
some Gnome dependencies (gnome-keyring, bonobo, gconf, all such stuff).

Used SVN rev 27143.
Attached is the relevant output of the configure script for checking
Glade stuff.
This happens on ArchLinux.
Any other information needed?

Regards,
Enrico

-- 
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From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Wed Jun 25 18:04:50 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:04:50 +0200
Subject: libxfcegui4 install error without gladeui
In-Reply-To: <20080625175356.baa70d83.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
References: <20080625175356.baa70d83.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
Message-ID: <20080625180450.bb11f750.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:53:56 +0200, Enrico Tr?ger
<enrico.troeger at uvena.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just tried to install libxfcegui4 (make install) and got the
> following error:
> 
> make[3]: Entering directory
> `/home/enrico/src/xfce/libxfcegui4/trunk/glade' make[3]: Nothing to be
> done for `install-exec-am'.
> test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> test -z "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0" || /bin/mkdir -p
> "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0" /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory
> `/usr/lib/libglade': Permission denied make[3]: ***
> [install-libglademoduleLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
> 
> There seems to be something wrong with the glade code. I have
> installed libglade but prefer to not install gladeui as this requires
> some Gnome dependencies (gnome-keyring, bonobo, gconf, all such
> stuff).
> 
> Used SVN rev 27143.
> Attached is the relevant output of the configure script for checking
> Glade stuff.
> This happens on ArchLinux.
> Any other information needed?

Probably it's worth to mention I'm configuring my Xfce apps with
--prefix=/home/enrico/apps/xfce-svn, so they don't get installed
in /usr/local.


Regards,
Enrico

-- 
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From bjt23 at cornell.edu  Wed Jun 25 19:21:54 2008
From: bjt23 at cornell.edu (Brian J. Tarricone)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:21:54 -0700
Subject: libxfcegui4 install error without gladeui
In-Reply-To: <20080625175356.baa70d83.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
References: <20080625175356.baa70d83.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
Message-ID: <48627EB2.4030803@cornell.edu>

Enrico Tr?ger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just tried to install libxfcegui4 (make install) and got the
> following error:
> 
> make[3]: Entering directory
> `/home/enrico/src/xfce/libxfcegui4/trunk/glade' make[3]: Nothing to be
> done for `install-exec-am'.
> test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> test -z "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0"
> /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib/libglade': Permission
> denied make[3]: *** [install-libglademoduleLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
> 
> There seems to be something wrong with the glade code. I have
> installed libglade but prefer to not install gladeui as this requires
> some Gnome dependencies (gnome-keyring, bonobo, gconf, all such stuff).

No, there's nothing wrong with it.  That has nothing to do with gladeui. 
  Read it again -- /usr/lib/libglade is failing to be created.  It's 
required now, and this unfortunately breaks non-root installs.  If you 
know of a way to install libglade modules to a non-root location without 
breaking the install for regular users (missing widgets in the settings 
dialog would suck), please submit a patch.

	-brian

From sofar at foo-projects.org  Wed Jun 25 19:49:42 2008
From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Kok, Auke)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:49:42 -0700
Subject: show/hide button
In-Reply-To: <4829D5D1.8030209@cornell.edu>
References: <162800e10805120548q48053c9du760c3c2a954c1bb7@mail.gmail.com>	<48287F1E.9060605@cornell.edu>	<162800e10805122313j2357d4d6g6634983a8b30b4ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<4829D5D1.8030209@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <48628536.1010506@foo-projects.org>

Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> Why is it necessary?  What's wrong with the panel's autohide behavior? 
> I feel like this is a niche feature that isn't really a great idea to 
> put in the panel proper...  Tho adding a way to allow plugins to change 
> autohide behavior might not be a bad idea.

Think netbook/mid: no keyboard, mouse navigation is not there. Stylus navigation
is prevalent and having an arrow at all times in a screen corner to popup/hide the
entire menu is a very practical way ... you can't stylus your way to open the menu
in any case.

Auke


From mmassonnet at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 21:22:33 2008
From: mmassonnet at gmail.com (Mike Massonnet)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:22:33 +0200
Subject: libxfcegui4 install error without gladeui
In-Reply-To: <48627EB2.4030803@cornell.edu>
References: <20080625175356.baa70d83.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
	<48627EB2.4030803@cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <20080625192233.GF31520@failure.del>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:21:54AM -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> Enrico Tr?ger wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I just tried to install libxfcegui4 (make install) and got the
> > following error:
> > 
> > make[3]: Entering directory
> > `/home/enrico/src/xfce/libxfcegui4/trunk/glade' make[3]: Nothing to be
> > done for `install-exec-am'.
> > test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> > test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> > test -z "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0"
> > /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/lib/libglade': Permission
> > denied make[3]: *** [install-libglademoduleLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
> > 
> > There seems to be something wrong with the glade code. I have
> > installed libglade but prefer to not install gladeui as this requires
> > some Gnome dependencies (gnome-keyring, bonobo, gconf, all such stuff).
> 
> No, there's nothing wrong with it.  That has nothing to do with gladeui. 
>   Read it again -- /usr/lib/libglade is failing to be created.  It's 
> required now, and this unfortunately breaks non-root installs.  If you 
> know of a way to install libglade modules to a non-root location without 
> breaking the install for regular users (missing widgets in the settings 
> dialog would suck), please submit a patch.

It broke on permission also here.  I simply went to trunk/glade and ran
make install in that directory with root perms.

> 	-brian

HTH
-- 
Mike Massonnet
mmassonnet at xfce.org

From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Fri Jun 27 19:27:57 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:27:57 +0200
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27155 - libexo/trunk/po libxfce4menu/trunk/po
	libxfce4ui/trunk/po libxfce4util/trunk/po libxfcegui4/trunk/po
	mousepad/trunk/po squeeze/trunk/po terminal/trunk/po thunar/trunk/po
	xarchiver/trunk/po xfcalendar/trunk/po xfce-mcs-manager/trunk/po
	xfce-mcs-plugins/trunk/po xfce-utils/trunk/po xfce4-appfinder/trunk/po
	xfce4-icon-theme/trunk/po xfce4-mixer/trunk/po xfce4-panel/trunk/po
	xfce4-session/trunk/po xfce4-trigger-launcher/trunk/po
	xfdesktop/trunk/po xfmedia/trunk/po xfprint/trunk/po xfwm4/trunk/po
In-Reply-To: <20080626220917.8F41BF29E2@mocha.foo-projects.org>
References: <20080626220917.8F41BF29E2@mocha.foo-projects.org>
Message-ID: <20080627192757.c2929716.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:09:17 +0000 (UTC), "Maximilian Schleiss"
<maximilian at xfce.org> wrote:

> Modified:
> [...]
> xfce4-icon-theme/trunk/po/ChangeLog
> xfce4-icon-theme/trunk/po/LINGUAS
> xfce4-mixer/trunk/po/LINGUAS
> xfce4-panel/trunk/po/ChangeLog
> xfce4-panel/trunk/po/gl.po

It seems the po/gl.po for xfce4-mixer is missing and so compilation
fails.

Regards,
Enrico

-- 
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From ongardie at gmail.com  Fri Jun 27 20:13:38 2008
From: ongardie at gmail.com (Diego Ongaro)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:13:38 +0100
Subject: [Xfce4-commits] r27155 - libexo/trunk/po libxfce4menu/trunk/po
	libxfce4ui/trunk/po libxfce4util/trunk/po libxfcegui4/trunk/po
	mousepad/trunk/po squeeze/trunk/po terminal/trunk/po
	thunar/trunk/po xarchiver/trunk/po xfcalendar/trunk/po xfce-mcs-man
Message-ID: <115252780806271113m3f9131c6t3a66fce512496bfe@mail.gmail.com>

$ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, May 28 2008, 08:35:32)
[GCC 4.2.4 (Debian 4.2.4-1)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> len("Re: [Xfce4-commits] r27155 - libexo/trunk/po libxfce4menu/trunk/po libxfce4ui/trunk/po libxfce4util/trunk/po libxfcegui4/trunk/po mousepad/trunk/po squeeze/trunk/po terminal/trunk/po thunar/trunk/po xarchiver/trunk/po xfcalendar/trunk/po xfce-mcs-manager/trunk/po xfce-mcs-plugins/trunk/po xfce-utils/trunk/po xfce4-appfinder/trunk/po xfce4-icon-theme/trunk/po xfce4-mixer/trunk/po xfce4-panel/trunk/po xfce4-session/trunk/po xfce4-trigger-launcher/trunk/po xfdesktop/trunk/po xfmedia/trunk/po xfprint/trunk/po xfwm4/trunk/po")
525
>>>

From enrico.troeger at uvena.de  Fri Jun 27 20:30:36 2008
From: enrico.troeger at uvena.de (Enrico =?UTF-8?B?VHLDtmdlcg==?=)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:30:36 +0200
Subject: libxfcegui4 install error without gladeui
In-Reply-To: <20080625192233.GF31520@failure.del>
References: <20080625175356.baa70d83.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>
	<48627EB2.4030803@cornell.edu> <20080625192233.GF31520@failure.del>
Message-ID: <20080627203036.2cb609d2.enrico.troeger@uvena.de>

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:22:33 +0200, Mike Massonnet
<mmassonnet at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:21:54AM -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> > Enrico Tr?ger wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I just tried to install libxfcegui4 (make install) and got the
> > > following error:
> > > 
> > > make[3]: Entering directory
> > > `/home/enrico/src/xfce/libxfcegui4/trunk/glade' make[3]: Nothing
> > > to be done for `install-exec-am'.
> > > test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> > > test -z "" || /bin/mkdir -p ""
> > > test -z "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0" || /bin/mkdir -p
> > > "/usr/lib/libglade/2.0" /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory
> > > `/usr/lib/libglade': Permission denied make[3]: ***
> > > [install-libglademoduleLTLIBRARIES] Error 1
> > > 
> > > There seems to be something wrong with the glade code. I have
> > > installed libglade but prefer to not install gladeui as this
> > > requires some Gnome dependencies (gnome-keyring, bonobo, gconf,
> > > all such stuff).
> > 
> > No, there's nothing wrong with it.  That has nothing to do with
> > gladeui. Read it again -- /usr/lib/libglade is failing to be
> > created.  It's required now, and this unfortunately breaks non-root
> > installs.  If